Driver examination report. Speeding.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Pedrol1123, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Let's review.

    You sped. That fact is not in dispute by your own admission.
    Now you want to escape the consequences for your decision by trying to catch court on a day off, or some belief a man educated enough to pass the BAR exam will not comprehend simple physics ( good luck on that one ), and will be so blinded by your brilliant theory and accompanied documentation from your employer as to avoid your punishment.

    All this to avoid the consequences you and apparently your employer consider laughable.



    More and more reasons for the new system.


    And your ####amamie crap of rolling down hill made you do it. Gee better avoid Donner, Cabbage, Black Mountain, Cumberland, Sisters, Eisenhower, Monteagle..........


    If you just can't control your speed rolling down hill those may prove the death of you literally.
     
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  3. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    74 in a 55? :biggrin_2552:
     
  4. Dr.Lou

    Dr.Lou Light Load Member

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    1)Yes, most if not all judges/officers will know the basic laws of physics and the affects that gravity has on vehicles. G=9.3m per second squared.

    2) Your best bet is to hope the officer doesn't show, or to fall on your sword and admit guilt and the magnitude of the violation. Although the judge has a copy of your driving record in front of him/her, mention your clean driving record and the amount of miles you drive. Oftentimes the court will look at your openess and good driving record as mitigators and dismiss your ticket or allow you to plea to a non-moving violation. You can also ask the judge if he/she would allow you to plea to a non-moving violation.

    3) Does a traffic violation automatically go on your CSA? I thought a specific report had to be filed and most local/county LEOs have no idea what CSA is or do they care, as long as they get their stat. It's the troopers/DOT cops that are more problamatic. Like truckers, cops hate extra paperwork.
     
  5. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Tazz's coments aside,,,,

    I'd wager this is a case of local departments looking for quick cash (since the taxpayer' s been raped to the point of actually PAYING ATTENTION to local elections, and the Federal teet's drying up)

    I made the mistake of just paying tickets when I was a cab driver years ago. As a professional driver a "cops & robbers" (or fox & chickens) attitude toward law enforement is part of the game. If you're going to court try to talk to the cop outside the courthouse, talk to the prosecuter (whatever the term is, it usally some Assistant to the DA) everything's negotiable.

    See what's on the table, see if you can plead guilty to a non-points violation. (and these days check the menu of the CSA since they're wise to that stuff, speeding is actually less than a seatbelt infraction.) If they play ball, tell them "thank you very much" pay the man and get outta dodge.

    Also watch out for NJ, I'm there every night and they're REALLY stepping up enforcement on 78-287. Some night they might even open that fancy chicken coop next to the TA!
     
  6. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    This is not a game, it is a profession.

    Keep treating like some friggin game where sometimes you get caught and some times you do not and with new regs you will be history.

    I would suggest if you do not wish to find new employment, or contribute to the states coffers learn to read the really neat signs that say

    Speed
    65 mph
    Limit

    otherwise brush up on pushing baked apple pie at your local Mickey D's. The companies SMS and his PSP will not change one bit from his court appearance. It was on an inspection and now part of their record for the next couple of years.

    You know they say Nero was giggling too:biggrin_2556:
     
  7. hup

    hup Medium Load Member

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  8. capital 48

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    Can`t waite to see what happens when you get popped for something.
    they will hit you for everything they can think of. The first thing they
    will say is you were speeding. your answer will be ( no I was not ).
    then they say ( were going 66 in a 65 thats why we pulled you over ).
    Now its time to inspect your truck,trailer,logs, time to stick it in real hard.
    We will see what you say then. If you think it won`t happen. It does everyday and there is nothing we drivers can do about it. like I said before
    speedo is not right in the truck. they are always off some. I know this for a fact I am also a tech and worked on trucks for years. they do not do
    tests like that unless you ask for it and pay for it your self. Yes he did wrong but if he can lessen the effects and points thats great. just like
    life and growing up if you can keep from geting a but wooping you are going to do what you can. CYA we all do it. That includes YOU. :biggrin_25510:
     
  9. Meltom

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    Y'all are crazy, but it's interesting hearing both sides of this. Keep it up, just don't make it personal cuz I don't want another entertaining thread shut down. When I was dispatching I had guys that were 25+ years on the road and they were never getting pulled over. They'd get inspections and they'd always be clean. It can be done, more people just need to take the time to do proper pre trips and obey the limits, or that's what I heard anyways (when I said it aloud as I was typing it)
     
  10. capital 48

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    You are correct on some points but all of us speed and sometimes things
    go bad running down the road that we have no control of. I have never
    been stopped of failed an inspection or fined. as stated before its luck.
    now a days it is getting harder and harder to keep the law off your back.
    This is why.
    1. csa
    2. states are broke its a mony maker if you think not. your crazy
    3. some companys try to push you to run junk. just do not do it.
    4. some law officers love to stick it to truckers. it has always been that way even way back when.
    For my self I am doing all I can to keep my clean record but anything can happen murphy is every where. keep your eye open.:biggrin_25510:
     
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  11. Tazz

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    But that is not the case for you.

    You admit you were in violation. You just want a do over for your actions. I believe the industry has been allowing far to many do overs and need a lot more consequences for a drivers decisions.

    You know I keep hearing about revenue, bully cops, bad inspections and in general they all have a qualifier in the story.

    I was doing what everyone does. No or everybody would have a ticket. My record is pristine as well as thousands of others so that is a baseless excuse.

    They only wrote me up for the money. Well you decided to give them the opportunity to take your money, again baseless.

    The cop didn't like truckers. Well maybe. But I find it curious that certain people seem to have run ins with these egomaniacs. While others such as myself continue to have good records, clean inspections, and keep our money firmly in our wallet while these menaces to drivers are out there. Perhaps the menace is the one without the badge.


    But you are right I do CYA(Or CMA I guess)

    I log what I do and do what I log. Keeps me from having to make up stuff to match what I have actually done.

    I match the numbers on the sign to the number on my dash. I mean they make that part simple and I fail to understand others boggle with it.

    I inspect my equipment far beyond what the minimum require. Even so I have been pulled over for a headlight out in Texas.

    Guess what at the end I walked away with a clean inspection. How?

    Simple when the officer finished I asked if while he was doing his paperwork could I replace the light.

    He seemed astonished that I would carry a spare. Told me that since at the end of the inspection I had no violations that was the way the inspection was written and complimented me on the neatness and efficiency of my conduct and paperwork.


    So yeah I guess your right. Some of us just choose to do it prior to screwing up rather than in the after math.
     
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