Contract changes on my gig!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by SHC, May 4, 2011.

  1. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    OK, so the new contract my company signed has cut into my profit quite a bit. Here's the new layout, tell me what you guys think...

    Loaded out of IL to S. Texas (4,500lbs in tanker) and come back empty.

    Load pays $2,050 (to truck) plus FSC on ALL miles (.62cpm right now)

    So I am getting roughly $3500 for the run, it is 2,700 miles round-trip. MPG is good due to light load, and it is drop-n-hook on both ends, plus 400 miles is bobtail.
    After fuel and deductions, I am now bringing home $1,800 a week (was about $2,600)

    Downside is I don't have a set work schedule anymore. It was leave Mon and back by Thurs afternoon. Now it's whatever they need it and if the plant shuts down for repairs then I sit at home making no $$$. I am planning on getting married in a year and starting a family, so not knowing what I will be working is not good either.

    I am leaning towards going back to doing regional work pulling a van or maybe a flat since I'm in NW Indiana and have tons of steel here, and doing my own thing. That way i can work what i want and be home on weekends or whatever I want.

    Just some thoughts?
     
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  3. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    You can't live on $1,800 a week? There are company drivers bringing home $300.
     
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  4. whosedog

    whosedog Medium Load Member

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    My question is when he says $1,800 after deductions, do the deductions include money set aside for all expenses,including maintenance, repair,insurance ,taxes and other overhead that he needs to factor in to keep the rig running? Because the 62 cents a mile is not enough,most owner Ops need $1 per mile just to break even;anything over $1 would be profit. Maybe I'm reading his post wrong and that 62 cents per mile is the actual profit? If so that's a decent profit.
     
  5. kwswan

    kwswan Road Train Member

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    The .62 cpm is what he is getting for the fuel surcharge.
     
  6. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    That is correct, the .62cpm is my fuel surcharge. I posted this in the "Ask an Owner Operator" section cuz I wanted O/O responses, not company drivers. I am not a company driver because, yes I know some only make $300 a week!!

    So let me try to clarify since I must not have done a good job.

    The entire 2,700 mile trip pays me $3,750 this week.
    I used $1,800 in fuel
    My deductions include my insurance only, so I will change it on here to show my maintance and tax put away....so lets say $500 a week for that.

    My bring home in my pocket is $1,450 (this week since the FSC changes)
    Does that sound resonable for 2,700 miles of driving as profit? Because I feel i could do that here in the Chicago area and be home every day.

    $1,450 is my exact cut-off for all my household bills and everything, so I think it might be a no-brainer here and I am going to have to leave to do something else.
     
  7. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Just taking a swag since there's really not enough insight into your costs, I'd say it would be an "ok" deal as long as it's committed and steady. But you said that was what had changed. Sounds like you're absorbing a bunch of risk.

    The question I would have is: if they're not loading you every week, what will you do instead?
     
  8. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    That is the exact problem to a point. Some weeks they want me to do 2 runs and then I might have to take a few days off if they shut down, but would never last a week.

    For example, I left last Tuesday morning and was almost home friday night when they informed me they needed me back in texas on Monday morning, so I had to turn and burn back. So as i was almost home last night, they called and told me they needed me to deliver my next trailer before my Tuesday's normal delivery (such as Sunday) so I would get 2 days off, then have to go back out again. Now i know some of you go out for 2-3 weeks at a time, but I can't do that. Life is much more important to me and I like to enjoy it with my family. When it was Mon-Thurs everything was great, but now the schedule is all over the place and i don't know if I will be doing 4 runs a month or 6 runs. Then if they have a shut-down for 2 days, then my schedule gets changed again.

    I guess what I am saying is I don't like living on the edge of my financial burdens. Just getting by isn't ideal, but i have been out of the freight loop for a while and not sure if this would be considered a good deal?

    I will make $1.29 for all my miles and they are all EMPTY miles.

    Kinda regretting getting the new tractor since I now have a payment and the MPG is about 1.2 worse than the old truck..... but hind sight is 20/20
     
  9. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    So more of a schedule thing versus a lack of work thing. It's only a good deal if the apparently lowest run count for the month brings in the funds you're able to meet your budget on, with the occasional back to back runs as a financial upside to the home time downside.

    I have way less experience than the others, but so far I could just about count on doing a 3-4 day out and back to just about anywhere a day away, and end the week with 16-1800 miles and $3400 to the truck (reefer) without even trying hard. Did that last week due to circumstance. Playing with my business model, that works out to a "take home" of $1150/wk gross or thereabouts. In my case, a below par week, but far from a disaster. The driver got paid, bills got paid, but nothing to have a press conference about.

    My assorted costs are likely higher than yours, but that bar-napkin figure sort of makes a point: you'll be facing the same problem running under your own authority (staying out longer to pick up better loads), but have greater control over when you pick your downtime. Of course that's strictly speaking of load board freight, not considering doing any direct loads or hooking up on some gravy you know about through broker contacts. Oh yeah, plus your new side job as a dispatcher when the wheels stop and as a bookkeeper when you have "days off" LOL.

    If I were you, I'd stick with it a while and see how it works out. It seems the actual work part isn't different other than less predictable - and you seemed ok with the run itself. Although you didn't mention if there was a rate cut involved with the changes. If after a month or two you/family can't deal with the extended away time and unpredictable home time, take a look at another lease deal or start your authority application. A bird in hand and all that...
     
  10. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    the rate got cut by $1,000 a run, which had me very upset..... now that I have had a day to figure it all out, it still makes me mad LOL..

    I have several bills that are just a few grand left on the balances, and the girl says she would be fine if I had to be gone a week or two at a time if I could get them paid off. With my current run, i am limited to making what the route allows, as where if I leased on somewhere I could do a bit better on my income I think and have more diversity on hometime, and control my income a bit better. Not to mention retain this woman I love so dearly, as I have lost 1 already to this business and it's hours/days away from home.

    For example, when I was leased on at Schneider, I was able to clear $2500-$3000 a week bring-home after fuel and all costs. That's how I got my 1st truck and motorcycle paid off. And i am thinking maybe i should go back to that for a few months and get the new rig paid for and the small bills gone, then I can relax a bit more this winter and not run as much in the snow and ice.

    So in a nutshell, I made the wrong choice by getting the new rig, but it is saving me on my taxes the little bit I was paying, but now I have a payment I can't just get rid of w/o a loss.
     
  11. Unclegrumpy

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