On the SpinnerII is there an air line that actually spins the centrifuge, instead of using oil to create the pressure? Am I understanding this correctly?
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No, the oil under pressure spins the centrifuge, the air line operates a control valve at the bottom.
Air Supply Air for the control mechanism can be taken from any convenient place on the vehicle air system where there is a constant supply of air, preferably from the dry tank. 1 ⁄ 8 -in. nylon tubing is sufficient or #4 hose can be used if preferred. Air pressure can vary from 35 to 125 psig. No regulators, valves or control devices are required. The Spinner II control automatically shuts off the air supply when the engine stops. 0.02 SCFM air consumption is almost too small to measure. Note: The control mechanism can be operated on bleed air taken from the turbocharger manifold if compressed air is not available. The standard air valve must be replaced by Part #72137 low-pressure air valve cartridge which includes a pre-filter Part #71246. Request Bulletin 86.020 for details. -
Note to DD 13/15/16 users:
Par 6.2 of the Filtration Manual says; "The use of supplemental by-pass oil filtration devices are not allowed on DD13, DD15, and DD16 engines."
I have a 2011 DD15 in a Coronado (love it by the way) and found this little tidbit in the filtration manual (I was going to put in my prior used FS2500). -
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I have mine mounted just ahead of the right spring shackle on my W9 and the lines are very short. -
Navistar, with the Maxxforce engine using so-called "advanced EGR" is still recommending lower oil change intervals of around 25,000 compared to Detroit's. But, Navistar is now factory installing Spinner II's as an option and upping the recommended oil change interval to 40,000 miles.
Guess they are siding with the Spinner brand. -
40,000 miles? No thanks!
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True, they all do not support extended service intervals, but they do put in the fine print that any extension must be supported by proper oil sampling. The manufacturers CANNOT deny warranty because of any add on device, unless it can be shown that the device in fact caused the damage. Same for brands of oil, whether synthetic or not, etc. The Magnesson-Moss Warranty Act, lays this all out. Manufacturers have been trying to scare everyone for years. The ONLY way they can deny a claim based on extending oil service intervals, is to show that the oil condition was at fault and caused the damage. Proper oil sampling is all the proof you need to satisfy the provisions of the Magnesson-Moss Warranty Act. Say you blew cam bearings. They may say that it was your extended services that did it, when it was the fault of the bearing quality. Oil sampling will justify the oil condition, and holds up in court. But, I have seen engine manufacturers deny claims even though the oil change intervals were followed. They will use stupid arguments regarding brand of oil, type of filter, etc. Sorry, but won't hold up unless it can be proved it was these items fault. And it is the manufacturers responsibility to prove in a court of law that what they claim was at fault, actually was. It is NOT your responsibility to prove that what you did was the cause of the failure. The Warranty Act lays this all out. You can find it easily online.
Just take in your oil sample records and say "read it and weep". This is just another case for doing regular oil sampling, especially with a reputable oil analysis lab. Cheap and easy insurance.Last edited: May 10, 2011
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