Am I Missing Any Ducks In My Row?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by ITS62, May 14, 2011.

  1. ITS62

    ITS62 Light Load Member

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    Howdy all,

    Trying to set up a new to me rig to be able to cross country and wanna make sure that I have all of my ducks in a row so I figured I would ask the pros...and all of you!

    First off, for all of you O/O's that run OTR for a living, my hat goes off to you putting up with all of the rules, regulations, and agencies that you have to register with to even go for a leisurely stroll cross country. It is freakin absurd! I am all for safety and used to over regulation, but how you can make a living at this is a testament to your determination!

    Quick background: Small business owner and we typically run class C straight trucks intrastate within California, getting trip permits if we go to NV or AZ. Due to constantly running overweight, a new nationwide contract, and the high cost of hiring specialized transport (entertainment type company that needs specialized trailer and dedicated drivers) I just added a full class A 80K GVW rig to our fleet and put myself and few employees through driving school for our CDL. We transport our own equipment from home terminal, go do our gig, then head home with same load, never hauling freight for a third party.

    Here is what I got so far:

    -Already had California CHP CA Motor Carrier Permit #
    -Already familiar with HOS and proper log books

    For the Class A Rig, have done so far:

    -Registered for DOT #
    -Started employee files and records keeping, and associated requirements for FMCSA
    -Filed Heavy Highway Vehicle Use Tax with IRS
    -Got Insurance per FMCSA
    -Registered with IRP for states we anticipate running through (know I need trip permits for rest), got plates and cab card in truck.
    -Registered with IFTA for lower 48 states and got stickers on truck.
    -Registered with the Unified Carrier Registration (UCR)
    -Got graphics with company name, city and state, CA#, DOT#, last 8 of VIN#, IFTA stickers

    Question #1: Am I missing anything?

    Question #2: Assuming that my IRP is registered for all lower 48, is there anything else I would need on an individual state level to cross through? Or am I good to go with IRP and IFTA for the whole US without getting hassled?

    ...and yes, I have spent hours upon hours searching the forum...just hoping to get those that have been through it to check my math!

    Thanks all!
     
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  3. High Desert Dweller

    High Desert Dweller Medium Load Member

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    These are in addition to IRP and IFTA:

    Oregon- temporary mileage pass before you enter the state, or post a $2000 bond and file monthly- (No permit, $520 fine)
    http://www.oregontruckingonline.com/cf/MCAD/pubMetaEntry/index.cfm?fuseAction=services

    New Mexico weight/distance tax-
    http://www.tax.newmexico.gov/All-Taxes/Pages/Weight-Distance-Tax.aspx

    New York HUT-
    http://www.newyorkhut.com/

    Kentucky KYU#-
    http://transportation.ky.gov/dmc/owod/faqs_owod.htm#Q1-a

    Kansas and Arkansas charge a property tax based on the annual mileage traveled in those states, no additional permits required. If you estimate the mileage on your IRP for KS and AR, you have to pay the tax, even if you did not travel in those states. So it's better to drop them and get temporaries if needed. You will start getting nasty letters from them- I know!
     
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  4. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    drug/alcohol testing program ??
     
  5. ITS62

    ITS62 Light Load Member

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    Check. Got the drug program.

    Does a simple additional individual state trip permit cover OR, NM, KY and NY or do I gotta register with each of those four also for an occasional pass through of the state?

    Any of you guys find it easier to use a permit service to keep it all in one place to go to or just file yourself with each jurisdiction?
     
  6. Nevs

    Nevs Light Load Member

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    I use a permit service for my licensing. While you can do it yourself, I've found it's well worth it to let someone do it who does it every day and knows who to talk to if there is a problem. Well worth the nominal fee my service charges. Just my experience, others may disagree.
     
  7. High Desert Dweller

    High Desert Dweller Medium Load Member

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    As far as OR and NM- Better to go direct because you still have to call in your truck info and route regardless. A permit service just relays the info, so why pay the extra fee? I ran under Oregon's temporary pass system for years with no problems. The New Mexico POEs are open 24/7, would stop and pay the weight/distance tax at the counter. Of course, you can run outlaw across the state, and hope you don't get pulled over. :)

    New York is a PITA, you have to file quarterlies even if you have no in-state miles, and if I recall correctly, you must apply for a HUT sticker, they don't have a temporary system.

    If you have a Rand McNally's Motor Carrier Atlas, take a look at the vehicle registration page. Many states now have a one-stop permit phone #. You can figure your route, and call each state individually, or use a permit service that will do the same thing for a fee.
     
  8. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Sure wish those states would come on board with the rest of the country in terms of IRP & fuel taxation. The redundancy as well as the extra people on their payroll has to exceed the net money they would take in.
     
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