Oldnewbie, not a Swiftie as of approx 1430CST today!

Discussion in 'Swift' started by JustSonny, May 20, 2011.

  1. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    As many have said, there is nothing new about what is being enforced. The only difference is the power grab by the federal guv'mint over individuals. This may well find its way into court. However, until it does, the "chronic" offenders may have to look over their shoulders a bit more.

    Some on these forums have come out in support of this, saying, "Some drivers just shouldn't be out here and this is a way to weed the garden." There are two trains of thought....that it is aimed at experienced drivers in order to decrease rates and that it is aimed at newbie steering-wheel holders who don't know the difference between an oil dipstick and an air compressor. Either way, if you don't get violations, you won't have anything to worry about.

    Others, like myself, have insisted this whole thing is out of the purvey of federal administration and should be turned back over to the States. This intrusive regulation by the FMCSA that even includes where I am allowed to sit in my own "home" or whether I can wash my windows while off duty is over the top. Do I have anything to worry about? Nope. But that doesn't make it right.

    Many among us saw this coming. What is it going to take before the rest of us realize this is nothing more than a hostile takeover of private enterprise? This CSA and the EOBR mandate is a direct limitation on the incomes of some of our brothers and sisters. "Safety" is the excuse used to justify this, while that has not much to do with it. It's about control.
     
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  3. Broken Spoke

    Broken Spoke Medium Load Member

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    Don't forget to file for your unemployment checks!
     
  4. Tazz

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    You know everyone is always complaining about getting rid of bad drivers, but the second someone starts to track and or penalize a driver the howls begin.


    Oldnewb that is not directed at you but just a general statement.
     
  5. ironpony

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    I've noticed this refrain in quite a few of your posts. I take it then, YOU'RE Mr. Lilly-White Perfect Driver then, yes?

    Personally, I'm not worried about it...
     
  6. Tazz

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    I believe in accountability for everyone for every action they take. I also know there are a substantial number of drivers of all vehicles that need their privilege of using a public road revoked at least temporarily if not permanently.

    I have no problem with any system designed to track and penalize those that are to hard headed, or to lazy to follow the law.
     
  7. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    Hey Sonny, sorry to read of your termination. It's been all I can do just to keep up with my subscribed threads, let alone new ones. I'm just reading of this today.

    You know I have nothing but best wishes for you in your driving career as well as your upcoming married life. By the way, where's my invitation?:biggrin_25520: Maybe we should simulcast or stream such a significant event live here on the forum.

    Take care, don't ever be a stranger here, and if there's anything I can do to help you out, just let me know.
     
  8. Native Dancer

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    How does making an innocent clerical error on a log book equal "fatiqued driving"? I have CSA points from warnings and two tickets I went to court over and was found not quilty but they still show up. With warning tickets there is no recourse. One warning ticket I recieved before CSA was ever mentioned the officer said I really wasn't doing anything wrong but he was going to give me a warning ticket to prove he was out there doing his job. I thought no big deal,it is only a warning ticket but when CSA was enacted retoactivly it came back to bite me. I don't understand how a law can be enacted retroactively. If they ever find out about me taking cookies from the cookie jar I'm sunk.
     
  9. Rotten

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    A law can not be inacted retroactivly. If I were you I would check into it.
     
  10. ironpony

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    Laws cannot be passed by Congress that apply retroactively - not that they haven't, and are enforced that way as well. It takes a court decision to change that.

    That being said, the FMCSRs have been in existance since before CSA showed up - and "warning" tickets as well. What it will take is someone being PO'd enough about the retroactive effects of the CSA regulation on their livelyhood and businesses before someone will pony up the jack to get an attorney to do something about the other attorneys that are palming this atrocity off on us.

    Ya know what 1000 attorneys chained together at the bottom of the sea is dontcha?


















    ... A Good Start! :biggrin_2559:
     
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  11. Rug_Trucker

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    Have no doubt in you mind violating the 10-14hr rule or running over on your 70 is something that can put you in PRISON!

    Say you have an accident that isn't your fault. The drunk was going the wrong way on the express way and you hit him head on.

    You screwed up you logs 15 minutes 4 months ago? You will be paying a fine at minimum, you can end up in prison. Simply, you shouldn't have been there because you were over your 70 in the last 6 months. The company is liable too.

    You can bet most OTR companies will be just like Swift. I knew of another grad from my school that took 6 months off from Crete due to "sloppy logs."
     
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