Ok I'll ask what has E-Logs got to do with

I do believe you have explained your problem with e-logs with this statement.

 

No, I have a problem with a company that dispatches me on loads that are not ready. For example, I was at a truckstop 30 mins east of columbus, ohio. Did my 10 hrs there. Got into the shipper, Abbott Labs, in Columbus at 11:30 to make my noon appt. I did not get my bills until 2am that night. Didnt get paid any detention at all. I live 90 mins from there, I should have just gone home. I was so pissed off, that I went through the house after I got loaded and dropped off most of my belongings. I delivered the load close to Kansas City, then took the truck back to the terminal and told them to stick it.

 

<<<<< enuff said

 

Well you proved your adept at deception. All loads of diesel will now be late and hence supply and demand will drive up prices.

So all loads of diesel are now delivered by drivers running illegal? The only way a shift to E-Logs does is take away the ability to fudge. And your position is that the only way diesel and gas can be delivered in a timely manner is illegally. Loads of haz-mat by the way.

More silliness. Your premise since obviously they are not all illegal now is again flawed despite your many economic degrees. Yeah I know you do not really have any but hey your sure good at telling other to get an education when simple logic disproves the flawed theories your presenting.

Now to your example of a truck that can not make load so will tye uo to trucks. Well a shift in logistics will occur.

As I said some may have to become team only. Some will require shippers that want their product delivered in a timely manner to load the truck in a timely matter.

You example is flawed again. Drivers will use the hours and equipment we have to the limits of the laws. Shippers and recievers will now have to pay closer attention to their logitical needs to avoid delays in servicing their customers.





It boils down to a basic fact. The only way an EOBR will effect you is if you lie now.


Now about your supposed pay cut. Well if there is one(I nor many others will not suffer one as I and many others already follow the rules and make what I require) for drivers that are risking lives, and cheating to get a leg up on their competition illegally I for one have absolutely no problem with them choosing to find other employment opportunities.


Same as those that feel speed limits cut their pay, same as those believing they have some imbued right to be on a public road with any old junk they can make rattle down the road.









Just a reminder. The fact is if you run legal now nothing changes. If you run illegal now you better call Papa Johns if you wish to continue driving for a living because EOBR's are here. No not yet but I'll bet a buffalo nickel by Jan '12 the NPRM will be open and by July be on the books.

 

Let's revisit this pay cut. As this guy ^^ says, supply and demand will drive up prices. He may have been referring to fuels, but the same concept applies to freight carriers as well.

And that addresses the "pay cut" being despaired about.




However. E-logs are not about safety. They are about control. Period, paragraph.

Therefore, since I happen to be one of those nut cases who think the federal and state guv'mints already have too much knowledge and control over individuals' lives, I am adamantly against this further push into private enterprise.

But not for some of the lame excuses I've seen here.



Well, lame except for the genius who compared it to being treated like a 12-year-old. That's exactly how I felt with all those confounded gadgets in that Prime truck. Including Ms. E-logs who would blare this gawdawful warning tone and follow with "You have 15 minutes...." Well, I know that, Toots. That's why I'm rushing at the top of my governor, dodging traffic and feeling my blood pressure rise to reach that receiver that's 7 miles away.

 

Hey, but Miss Injun, for every one of you (us) who are aware of our hours.... there's 10 of them who run out of time... and their excuse is " I don't wear a watch".

 

And how do we know about these 10?



Ooh! OOH!! Mr. Kotter!! I know! Oooh-ooh!!!



It's because they are caught in inspections. Of paper logs.

 

There were folks at England getting busted at Banning and others with log violations on E-logs.... I mean sheesh, the truck goes 62, you're a TEAM.... AND you can edit everything but driving time - how can you have a log violation? I repowered two loads there before I went PODS dedicated.

 

You have every right to behave however you wish right up to the point of using public roads for your business. It is that simple, I agree there is far to much bs of people sticking their collective noses into an individuals decisions. Drugs, marriage, religion, abortion, sexual preference, monetary practices, reproduction............


Well the list is rather long and involved. However the second you tie yourself to others by using communal roads you give up a significant portion of your individual choices because the consequences now begin to effect others. The optimum way out of that obligation to others would be to build and use your own roads. That is not feasible, so like many things we pool resources and have common concent(laws) about the use of resources.

 

Hmmmm.....I suppose, then, your logic would follow to all of the items you list out. Do what you want, but if "society" as a whole deems your choices to be inappropriate, hide on your own property. No same-sex couples holding hands on public streets. No transporting of your stash on public streets. No pregnant, single teens will be seen on public streets.

Shoulda quit while you were ahead.