stanley ryan farms 20% theft of drivers pay

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  1. Jul 11, 2011 #1
    mark5367

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    potential drivers in central illinos beware..stanley ryan farms.is taking 20% of each load a driver hauls ..they call it a fuel surcharge...this 20% affects the drivers pay as drivers are paid 26% of the truck gross on a bi-weekly basis could cost drivers as much as $300 to $500 dollars bi-weekly.as we all know fuel surcharges come from the brokers not the drivers pay....also student drivers beware dont fall into this trap ,it is illegal for owners to take this from any loads that would reduce your earned pay without you express written permission...dont sign anything that would allow an owner to charge you the employee a fee.
     
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  3. Jul 11, 2011 #2
    Big_Al

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    That would depend on how you are supposed to be paid. Most companies pay a percentage of the line haul, not the fuel surcharge. The fuel surcharge is supposed to go to whoever is paying for the fuel.
     
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    Bent Wrench

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    Wouldn't the fuel surcharge vary on each load (not be a flat rate of 20%).
     
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    I just knew it was a matter of time before trucking companies found a way to charge the driver for the privilege of working for them!
     
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    Big_Al

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    Dude, that may be not what is happening. If a load pays $2.00 a mile plus a FSC of .45 they driver usually gets a % of the $2.00. Why would they give the driver a cut of the FSC? He is not paying for the fuel. That may not be what is happening here, but I am thinking that the driver does not understand how a FSC works. His pay won't change with the FSC. If fuel ever went back to $ 1.20 and the FSC was 0, he would still get his % of the $ 2.00.
     
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  8. Jul 12, 2011 #6
    mark5367

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    Guys they are not using this 20 percent charge for fuel. They are only calling it a fuel surcharge .some companies are calling these charges a maintience charge or even an overhead charge.calling it a fsc is only to try to make this action sound legal...they are also using this type of action as a tax break..at Stanley Ryan farms he takes 20 percent from your pay and sets it aside .taxes the remaining amount then puts the 20percent back on..resulting in his paying less taxes and not reporting the 20 percent as income......he also reduces the amount of social security that he is required to match by law....he has told me personally that you can make back all your overhead if you know how to mess with the tax numbers. Big red flag..........
     
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    ronin

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    Are the drivers still getting their 26% of the load? That sounds pretty fair... the last two places I looked at that paid by the load was 22 and 24%.

    Sounds like the employer is just doing a per diem kind of thing, not at all uncommon.
     
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    mark5367

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    no ronin the drivers are paid 26% of the entire gross of the truck bi-weekly..however .ryan is taking 20% off off the top of every load then ...so if the load pays 1500.00 ryan takes 20% of the 1500.00 leaving the driver to be paid fom whats left which would be 1200.00. so if you have 5 loads in a week take 20% from each of those loads.and then pay the driver the 26% of whats left...
     
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    Big John

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    I bet that is what is happening. That is the way companies do it. Why should I pay a driver a percentage of the fuel surcharge when I am buying the fuel and own the truck. If they paid a driver a part of the fuel surcharge they wouldn't be in business long.

    Their is always company's that pay by the mile if you don't agree.
     
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    stevep1977

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    I don't understand why people are against per diem so much (if thats what they are doing).

    I find it amusing when someone says that per diem is lowering their taxible income, therefore, reducing the amount that they and the employer is contributing to FICA taxes (medicare/social security), stating that they want to pay more in taxes to fund their social security account. Like it is even going to be there when we retire anyway.

    Now, if you are taking a bunch of deductions on your taxes, then per diem doesn't make sense (mortgage interest, etc). However, take the standard deduction and use the per diem if you have little deductions.
     
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