Errm, I can't necessarily agree with you on that one... depending on the circumstances. I would say in most cases that it must be logged as driving time. I could see logging as personal if you are going from your home terminal to your residence, or going home and then (planning on) returning to your previous location, but unlikely beyond that... and I'm a person that tends to "expand the envelope."
Someone posted a link to J. J. Keller's interpretation of the personal conveyance issue and one of the things they stated is that you cannot use personal conveyance to re-postion the CMV for the next load. The exact interpretation of that would likely come down to previous patterns of trips and hometime and so on, but I imagine it would go against the driver far more often than for them.
Another member has posted that he often logs as personal conveyance when leaving a receiver, but I think that is going to bite him in the rear at some point... despite the fact that it is apparently condoned by his carrier (which you were previously leased to).
Falisfy or log a violation?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Meltom, Jul 11, 2011.
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I've never had a problem with it, and have logged it as such many times.
Example - I lived in Cataldo, Idaho (way north), but have a son and daughter in Oklahoma City. I finaled in Dallas, was going to OKC for 2-3 days. I logged off-duty driving from Dallas to OKC, got my logs looked at at the scale near the 54-55 mm on I-35 in OK. No problems, they understood what I was doing.
I was dispatched a couple of days later to deadhead to Stillwater to load.. about 60 miles away. That part was logged as regular driving, since OKC was my "home" for intents and purposes.
No reason at all, IMO, that you couldn't log as off-duty driving, or off-duty, if you don't have a line 1/5 on top (or Elogs), when leaving your final drop, if you're going off-duty afterwards.
Where this can really help you is if you're only home for a day or so, and NEED that extra time as off-duty to get a 34. -
I drew up something for my companies orientation binder and put the safety directors spin on it so we have something now. Unfortunately I'm starting to see people abuse line 5 and if they keep that up I'm gonna turn that off too.
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Abuse like what? Just wondering.
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Using pc to advance towards a load, or to get maintenance done, fuel purchase, to get unloaded during a reset. Its getting crazy
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Ok, that makes sense... I thought you meant rolling to the karaoke bar or strip club.
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Start fining them for log violations. We have a problem with guys dropping trailers on the yard without cleaning them out. When the next driver has to clean it, $25 goes from the driver who dropped it to the driver who cleaned it. Some of them at least are starting to pay attention.
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I choose to not even carry a logbook, when asked I told the dot that I wasn't running one, they gave me a $185.00 fine, pluse a 10 hour break, I was working for myself, running 5000 miles per week and I knew there was no leagle way I could log it. But if I had tried to log it they could have written me 185.00 X the last ten days for a = $1850.00 fine, They did hit me with a pop DOT safety inspection at my home office, went through all my paper works, permits, exctra .....
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Then I started running less miles and running a log book.
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yes those were some good pay days 3750.00 a week before expences.
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