New Driver with CB Questions

Well you're the one always quoting laws the FCC doesn't even enforce anymore, and never really could very effectively in the first place. If the shoe fits............

 

Best advice!!!

 

Saying "Like I said HERE we have seen people JAILED for using radios to warn of cops ..... Feel free to do as you please but don't advise others to follow"

sounds to me like you are claiming authority over the board as a 'legal beagle' ( I correct your spelling) telling others what to post and why. Problem is you are wrong. Using an example of a case you knew of where the people jailed were involved in a criminal conspiracy has nothing to do with the intent of the poster you were trying to be in authority over. He was not talking about such a conspiracy. You do err when you assume you know the intent of an average truck driver who posts here. In effect you are altering the facts by using a case to back up your point opposite in intent to what the driver had said. He stated"

"WRONG!
No Law on the books says you cant "advise" of police activity
Current personal activity is subjective if not irrelevant(speeding)
Big Trucks need all the foresight available to ensure safe travel
Being given the "heads up" will easily allow for proper adjustments aka:
proper passing clearance and or adjustments as to not hinder an LEO's duty."

LEO is actually being given a service here. If the officer is on the shoulder in a stop He is in danger from vehicles in the right lane. As it takes time in traffic to get a big rig into the left lane warning them of a 'bear on the shoulder' gives drivers time to safely move into the hammer lane and slow down thus preserving the officers safety. Yup is not involved in a conspiracy here and you have no authority to tell him what not to post on this board. Neither is He breaking any laws. As I stated the officers safety margin goes up from Yup's warning. Driving for hours lulls you into a state of hypnosis where you are not as alert and aware within an inch where your wheels (or bumpers) are. Getting this 'heads up' sharpens the alertness of the driver thus improving the precision with which he or she handles their rig as they pass by the officer.

You posted:

Sec. 95.413 (CB Rule 13) What communications are prohibited?

(a) You must not use a CB station--
(1) In connection with any activity which is against federal, state
or local law;

The only 2 people busted in the 20 years I have worked for Public Safety agencys were busted for useing scanners in their cars to warn drug dealers. The same would apply to warning other drivers about the cops."

No it would not. You are assuming the person doing the warning (smokey report) has knowledge of actual infractions of the law on the part of others within the range of his CB. The driver is not aware whether or not another trucker hearing his 'bear report' is involved in breaking the law, thus removing 'conspiracy' from the issue. Therefore he was not breaking the law and not in violation of sub part 1. He was not aiding another person in the commission of a crime (i.e. speeding) since he does not know the speed of other trucks around him. A small side issue is do you mind using a spell checker in your posts. Another is you do not know what you are saying so please stop saying it.

 

Will the real AB7IF please stand up since he does not live in Harrison,Ar.
So while I upgrade my spell checker he needs to upgrade his address.

It is like this I an NOT giving legal advice only relating from the years I have worked in the agencies and what I have seen not 2nd hand crap
or hand me down info.

So feel free to give out all the warning you want and while we are at it
at least here in Florida fell free to run your scanner and radar detector in your 18 wheeler as you go down US-19 .....

We might get to meet at work .....

Now to upgrade my spell checker ...

 

Either upgrade it or at least simply use it (am not an). If I am not the real AB7IF I do not need to upgrade my address. You are making judgments of others again with zero information to back it up. Maybe a tornado blew the real AB7IF away. Maybe it's none of your business your not the FCC. Maybe the real AB7IF does not need you policing him. This is America not the police state Amerika you so desperately wish it to be. You do not win by making veiled threats. "maybe we will meet at work"? Look carefully. EX 32 years. I no longer drive a truck, and if I did I would not go to your crime ridden Florida to bring you a banana. You should get your goods by slow boat from Korea (North of course in keeping with your nose into others business police state attitude here) and leave truckers alone. After all you just implied you have some LEO connection and threatened me without justification concerning the use of a scanner or radar detector, and in a thinly veiled way, you would bring some form of enforcement against me didn't you. There is no other way to read what you just said. You after all are accusing me again without knowledge. Just exactly where in the thread about giving a CB smokey report does your radar detector and scanner enter into it. Maybe the board name is characters I randomly chose and you have no idea who you are attacking nor what you are talking about. After all I have never said a word about who or what I am. It is quite simply none of your business and has zero reference to the topic of this thread. You are not the boss of me, or anyone else, nor the sheriff of this board. Virtually 100 percent of all the trouble in this world is caused by people claiming power over others they have no right to.

 

FIRST .... I have NEVER said I'm a LEO IN FACT I have made it known I'm not what I do is not your problem ..... and YES I work in public safety and have in several agencys for almost 20 years.

2ND ...... You come out of no place and attack ME for what other than you don't agree with it and you don't work in the field I do or have seen FIRST HAND that officers can and do give ticket for flashing lights ECT ... right or wrong it is not my call feel free to do as you please ....

As for scanners and radar detectors in some states they are illegal and for what reason ??????????? why they warn you about the COPS ......

All I did is tell you HERE if you warn about police up ahead THEY have the right to call the shots ...... again not my call as to if you are trying to get around some form of enforcement ..... OR being a good trucker and trying to keep others SAFE

Again not MY call .....

 

"You come out of no place and attack ME"

Attacking and correcting are two different things. Attacking is when you make it personal by looking up call signs, addresses, present locations, insisting they update information, all of which is none of your business and outside of your rights or authority. Further, assuming criminal intent, bringing in scanners and radar detectors, by implication escalating the number of pre supposed infractions all add to the definition of 'attack' when implied towards the innocent. As example under the color of law persecuting a person who has done no wrong. I never said you are LEO but your "we will meet at work" can only be seen as a veiled threat of some type of enforcement action against me, i.e., an attack by you, towards me. "You come out of no place" assumes you have authority over people of lesser post numbers, "and attack" is accusation, "ME" in caps implies a state of emotion. If I were to guess I would not consider LEO but rather DOT or a scale house if it were important. It is not. I do not need a large post count I just need to be correct in all things. This is all off topic and a complete waste of time. You told someone what not to say on this board. As to my 'correcting' (not attacking) I merely responded to your post aimed at another.

It was not a suggestion it was an order from you, go back and read it. Most drivers give smokey reports, always have, always will. Whether you like it or not is beside the point you are not going to change things. All you need to do is politely give your opinion without making demands nor trying to exercise control over others posts. People that demand control of others in this way turn a board into a place others choose not to be. Yet a little more and I will be one of those others. I made a first post telling the guy he has the right to speak as he did. You are in effect hijacking the thread with your subsequent posts aimed at me. I will not continue to do so much longer it is quite simply not worth the time and duress created by your insistence of maintaining power and control over myself or anyone else. Playing the victim when you are not one does not work with anyone of high IQ. So kindly drop it here and now and let the thread go back to it's original intent.

Further, if you study you will find scanners were first outlawed in Tn and it had nothing to do with truck drivers desiring the current location of LEO. I know, I was there decades ago. Ambulance chasers (which includes fire and LEO) were causing accidents trying to get the news story first. Look it up. Whether or not some LEO give tickets for giving smokey reports it is in effect unconstitutional involving 1st amendment rights of free speech. All this means is thus far someone with deep enough pockets has not been so ticketed. If they were and angered enough to take it to the supreme court the ruling would remove all further tickets for this from the land. Americans have the free speech right to speak concerning the whereabouts of anything they choose to so long as they do not surrender those rights by actually commiting a crime (you pick one) such as; broadcasting classified information or being involved in the conspiracy to help drug dealers. I was quite amazed you chose the latter as your reason the driver was not allowed to give a simple smokey report. Apples and oranges are not far enough apart to do justice to the distance between your example and the drivers comment. No, neither does 'grasping at straws', you will just have to work that one out alone.

 

You have the problem ..... not me ....

As for not having a right to look you up your ham license and info is PUBLIC RECORD

What does the history of outlawing scanners have to do with the fact they are ILLEGAL in some states YES even here in Florida however local officers don't mess with you unless they have a reason to.

So go give BAD advice and tell people they have a RIGHT to do this from my view point that is just not wise ....

http://www.ae7q.com/data/CallPreUls.php?CALL=AB7IF&DATE=1995-03-27

 

Please keep things civil in here. Personal attacks make a thread less useful to the rest of the community. Thank you for your cooperation!

 

No problem