Oilfield daycab question

Yes, you can be 10 hours off-duty, but not in the cab nor in the sleeper. That is either on-duty, driving, or sleeper (oilfield exception et al notwithstanding). Count yourself lucky.

 

Any time spent in the cab of the truck should be marked as "on duty not driving"
But, when your out in the middle of nowhere, DOT isn't going to know whether u slept in the day cab or on a couch in some office somewhere.

If the money is worth it, I personally would just suck it up, sleep in the cab and in the mean time look for something else. Or possibly if it happens frequently, sit down with boss man and explain to him how much safer it would be to have a truck with a sleeper. Less risk of accident from not getting a good nights sleep. and less chance of fines to yourself or possibly the company for not providing the proper truck, or transportation to a motel. Or you could call back to dispatch let them know the situation and get permission to drop the trailer and bobtail back.

 

if you're on a 34 hour reset you shouldn't be checking your q-comm, you're off duty. passing through the cab to get in and out doesn't count.

If you're driving teams and dot stops you with your co-driver in the side seat, technically he/she is on duty and his/her log should show that. If the officer wanted to be a an ##### he could check his/her logs and if they don't show on duty at that time, or they should be off at that time they can get nailed for HOS violation.

This all if you go by the letter of the law. In the real world it's just not possible to follow a bunch of rules and regs set by some brain dead "suits" that have never driven a truck, or for that matter probably even seen a truck from less then 30 feet away. All the info they used to set the rules was from some study conducted by some "qualified" research company. Again, refer to the brain dead "suits" sentence.

The only way you could possible get nailed for being in the cab is if DOT is conducting a sting of some sorts specifically looking for that sort of thing. If they are hanging out in a TS and see you spending most of your time in the cab, and then check your logs.

The OP was asking about what are the ramifications of spending time in the cab, the answer is simple, by the letter of the law it's not allowed. But what DOT don't know about, you can't get busted for. All he has to do is mark it as off duty. If DOT asks, you spent the night on a couch in the office, or you slept on the ground under the stars. your off duty, you can spend the time where ever you want, except the cab of the truck.

 

The Oilfield exemption only allows you to "PUSH" your 14
using Line 5.
If your on line 5 long enough you will get your 14 back and likely a reset after 24hrs.(not 34 like OTR)
Far as I know the only ones using line 5 are those "FEW" running E-Logs
Everyone else (whether you have 5 liners or not) all drag line 1 for all time spent off the asphalt.Some locations are 15-20+ miles off the asphalt,3-7mph
takes acouple hrs to even get to the location.

As for your paper,just flag"off duty" and write bunk-house under remarks
Keep your board behind the seats and bed roll in the right floor until you
can talk them into/out of a bunk truck.

Take all the crap they sling,pay attention to the sand operations
and you could likely end up a "Sand Coordinator"

Then you will have to sleep across the seat in a pick-up
Pays better . . . . . . so get a vison for the big picture and go for it.

 

Could you possibly more assumptive/speculative ?
You know less then "Nothing" on this topic,so please save your battery power.

 

Here is the law I speak of. All those "Wrongs" are correct according to the way that law is written. Link to FMCSA is at the bottom of the post


Please refer to line #4



On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

(4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth;

(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;

(8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of a motor carrier; and

(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.

copied directly from FMCSA website

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2

 

OK.....It's the OILFIELD.

Regular rules don't apply........so all you truckstop lawyers need to put a plug in it.

Yes......you can sleep in a daycab....I can personally show you 35 different positions
that will ALL give you a backache.

Off duty AT A WELL SITE while you're waiting to unload or do your job is line 5...and doesn't count against your 11/14.

It's called the "Oilfield Exemption".........it's in the book....read about it.

Do I recommend driving for a company that runs daycabs in the oilfield....

NO........have I done it........YES.


Remember troops.....the oilfield is a different world and as long as your paperwork
is good........you're legal......no matter how long you've been on the well.


I've personally done 32 hours at the well....finally unloaded...then drove back to the yard.......2.5 hours driving both ways.

Did I get some sleep.....yes.....was it in a sleeper....no. Was I still legal to drive.......yes.


By the way......bring chow and drinks too. It get's hungry out there when you're waiting.



Likewise....the oilfield just aint for everybody.......want to be spoon fed.....go work for some other kind of trucking company.