Canadian HOS info?

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  1. trucker1962

    trucker1962 Bobtail Member

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    Hello, someone please help me out with this

    How can can a driver running single split his 8 Hrs of sleeper time?
    13 hrs of driving, does the driver have to finish all 13 hr driving within total of 14 hr on duty time or is it within 16 hrs work shift?

    Thanks
     
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  3. Raamman

    Raamman Light Load Member

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    as I understand it the 11 hours has to be within 14hrs of going on duty; the driver is required to stop upon the 11th hour of driving or at the 14th hour after initally logging on-duty for the day- which ever comes 1st. I can t comment on splitting the rest period- sry
     
  4. TheHealthyDriver

    TheHealthyDriver Heavy Load Member

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    Raamman, you're citing US laws.

    In Canada, from the time you start your clock, you have 16 hours to be done your day, which can include up to 13 hours driving, 1 additional hour of on duty, and 2 hours of off duty time. The 2 hours of off duty time cannot be in less than 30 minute increments, totaling 2 hours. Adding all those together, gives you your 16 hours. Then, you need to have 8 off. However, it is not required for you to have the 2 hours off duty during your day. You can opt to take the 10 off at the end of the day, or 1 hour off during the day, and 9 at night, or any combination that adds to 10 hours. I hope that made sense.
     
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  5. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    You can't split the 8. You can split your 10 hours of off duty though.

    It has to be 10 hours sleeper berth and can be divided into 2 periods, each of which has to be atleast 2 hours. So you could do 2 and 8 or 4 and 6 or 3.5 and 6.5 etc.

    With the split sleeper both sleeper berth periods stop the clock but neither one resets it. So you are always counting the time on both sides of the latest split.
     
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  6. trucker1962

    trucker1962 Bobtail Member

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    Thanx appriciate it, one day it will all kick in lol. happy trucking
     
  7. Beer Runner

    Beer Runner Medium Load Member

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    Your 10 hours off duty time has to come out to 10 hours.
    8 hours in the bunk, (you can't split this). Two more hours later on. You can go for 4, 30 minute brakes, 2 one hour brakes or a full 2 hours. As long as it adds up to 10 hours in a 24 hour period. For everything you do, don't go over 16 hours. Start work and end work. 16 hours in 24. Hope this helps.
     
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  8. trucker1962

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    Hello, Lets say my shift ended at 10 pm now. I go in the sleeper until 8 am the next day. So now I have total 10 hrs off. Am I right? Or is it 10 hrs off on each log page? would this be easier? drive 8 hrs then take 2 hrs off, then drive 5 hrs and take 8 hr sleeper. I get this done in no more than 16 hrs from start of the shift to end of the shift.
     
  9. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    http://www.oafc.on.ca/lib/db2file.asp?fileid=922

    Minimum 10 hours off duty each day.

    If you want to use the split sleeper berth see my post above.

    If you don't want to use the split sleeper see the post by Beer Runner about the 8 in the bunk and the other 2 being able to be taken in periods of 30 minutes or greater.

    Now the part about what a day is. A day is one log sheet. It usually goes from midnight to midnight but can be any 24 hour period designated by the company. So if they wanted the company could start each log sheet (day) at 3:00 AM or any other time.

    So during each day (log page) you must have atleast 10 hours off duty. During each day you can have up to 13 driving hours and 14 hours on duty.

    Then there is the work shift. The work shift can be up to 16 hours during which you can also drive up to 13 hours and work as much as 14 hours. The work shift can span more than one log page though. After 8 hours off duty you can start a new work shift.

    So say you start your work shift at 6:00 pm. You do 30 minutes on duty for a pretrip and fueling and then start driving. You drive until 11:30 PM and then take a half hour break before driving another 8 hours. At 8:00 AM you have driven 13 hours in your work shift and worked 13.5 hours. You need to take 8 hours off before you can drive again. So you take 8 hours and at 4:00 PM you start a new work shift.

    So at 4:00 PM you have a fresh work shift where you can drive as many as 13 hours and work as many as 14 hours. But you have already driven for 8 hours on that log sheet so even though you have 13 driving hours available you can only drive up to 5 hours and work up to 6 hours before midnight comes around.

    #### I made that confusing. The point is that there is both a day and a work shift involved. You can run out of hours available for the day when you still have lots of hours left in the work shift and find yourself needing to take a break mid shift. That's where the off duty exception can be used but won't go into that.
     
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  10. trucker1962

    trucker1962 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you so much, you have made lot of things clear. Now why in the world did Gov. do this? lol lol. I like the old way, sleep 8, hit the road, sleep 4, drive 4, sleep 4 ,drive 4, and keep on trucking.
     
  11. Beer Runner

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    This is how I do it. Day one I start my day at let's say 6 pm. I drive until 9. Now I can start at 5 am. Now repeat for every other day your on the road.

    When in the US. I drive form 6 am to 8 pm. Now repeat. And that's good enough for me. I still make good money and I get the rest and sleep I need. I get 600 + miles a day that's more then most driver do. I won't work some crazy shift and I won't work at night. But I will work hard all day and don't hang around the TS.

    4 on 4 off. To funny, you'll be dead within in a year.
     
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