Job Hopping Myths

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dancnoone, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    I agree. Our goals are very different. "Time" is measured in quality....not quantity.

    One goal, obtained: I won't be relying on my kids in my old age. I provided them a solid foundation to build on. And provided myself and the wife, with a decent place to retire.

    My kids know the value of hard work. More so now, than ever.

    My youngest owns her own company now, with her husband. They are having a hard time finding people that share the same work ethic. Hell, if I was young enough, I would work for them. They pay more than trucking. They've offered, I declined. I can't keep the pace they need.

    Quality time ??? My daughter just won the Mrs. Magnolia State prelims. Daddy was there. He'll be there for the finals too.

    Imagine that, looks AND brains. From a neglected child. :biggrin_25519:
     
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  3. KE5WDP

    KE5WDP Road Train Member

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    Haha...oh jeezz.....the main problem families have these days is lack of a father/husband. If my daughter has something that she really wants me to attend for her, you better believe that she comes before work. Of coarse I am gonna talk with bossman about it and work up a deal.

    But a real man puts his family before work. There is no way this man is gonna be greedy and choose money over family. Money comes and goes....but family lasts forever...that is unless you put money before family. Then you may find the family looking for a new husband/father...
     
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  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    There's nothing wrong with taking off (in this industry) for something a child has planned. IMHO

    Hell they want us to stay out days on end, and treat us like we have ZERO personal life. Luckily, I do not have those issues now. But I still have a limit to how much BS I will put up with.

    But I also realize, without a job. I can not/could not have done the things for my family. Needed or not.

    This industry demands more of us personally, than ANY industry I have ever worked in. Companies should not be surprised when an OTR driver walks over something as simple as missing a child's birthday. How many special events has he/she missed prior to asking/demanding this one off. The majority just don't give a ####.

    I'm lucky to be employed by a company who honestly tries. And that is all I ask.
     
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  5. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

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    If there was not a ridiculous oversupply of new drivers in this career, companies would not care about job hopping, they would be happy to have you on their team. These days they try to disqualify every applicant they can for the slightest reason and put the ones that pass the tests in a driver's seat.

    Then they have to fire an equal number of seasoned, veteran drivers so that every truck has a worker in it with one more on standby. (At the lowest possible pay rate).
     
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  6. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    You pretty much laid out the reasoning for my poor attitude. This job is a two way street, and companies routinely try to portray it as a one way street.

    And that may be true for the happy and desperate.

    Let's look in both lanes of this street.

    Lane number one contains almost 3 million drivers, looking for the "imaginary" perfect job. Over half are considered "job hoppers".

    Lane number two contains over 200k companies that are ALWAYS hiring new drivers. Is it the driver? Or the company? You be the judge.

    Drivers aren't perfect. And judging by the turn over rate, neither are companies.

    A top tier company has a waiting list and a ZERO sign on bonus.

    A top tier driver, has multiple recruiters stalking him. Most of them from bottom feeder companies needing drivers.

    Predicting the future: Trucking is like the real estate market right now, for trucking companies. People are out of work, desperate to do anything. And companies are taking full advantage of it while they can.

    Mark my word, within 24 months of THIS economy turning around. You will begin to see 5 digit sign on bonuses for SOLO drivers. As the "part-timers" return to the chosen professions. And baby boomers hang up their spurs....for good.

    I'm already seeing sign on bonuses for solo drivers greater than $5000. You want to see a flood of job hoppers. Wait until it reaches $10k.
     
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  7. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I could be wrong, But I may be sensing a slight shift TODAY from taking any new guy with a 3 week old CDL to preferring an experienced driver, who has been out a while or who has changed jobs a few times last couple of years. I used to think a carrier would rather have an inexperienced driver with possibilities but was clueless to his worth, but now, I think same carriers have had enough of the spending $1,000, a hundred times a month to pre-hire students who don't have a clue if they're cut out to truck or not ... and are giving more weight to "experienced or returning" drivers.

    In this day when freight is hard to come by, you have to do what you can to insure you don't piss off good customers with bad service and on-time performance. I sort of get the sense that some major carriers are putting up with less failure and inefficiencies as the months go by in this permanently soured economy and are figuring out it is better and more profitable in the long run to pay good, proven drivers well, then bad or unproven drivers peanuts.
     
  8. o.m.d.

    o.m.d. Heavy Load Member

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    well the way i see it, if you're afraid of someone leaving for something "better" then you should step up and take care of the good guys you have.
     
  9. Dino1968

    Dino1968 Light Load Member


    Well I had a guy quit me for what he said was a $50,000 a year construction job. He had been here 2 years and I would have liked for him 2 stay. However I wasn't going to get in a bidding war over it. He tore some crap up,made some WT_ were you thinking moves, but believe me I've seen lots worse. So I let him go without comment .

    GUESS WHO JUST FILED UNEMPLOYMENT ON ME? :biggrin_25526:
    I feel like opposing it because he left to "better" himself. Guess it wasn't
    what he thot it would be. Or maybe his new employer didn't like what he saw?

    If there are serious issues where you're at, maybe you have a reason to leave. But I've seen many cases where driver's attitudes and actions may have summat to do with how they're treated. IMO BTW.
     
  10. o.m.d.

    o.m.d. Heavy Load Member

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    if someone is leaving for a better possible opportunity then thats on them if it doesnt work out, im not saying to be held hostage by an employee if he threatens to quit for better money. but what im saying is guys not being taken care of. the one poster said something about afraid people would quit on him, and all i was saying was if you dont want your good guys to quit, take care of them. its as simple as that. i went threw 5 jobs in under 2 years. guys werent taking care of me, or had bad attitudes towards me. so i got a new job lined up, and then i'd quit. the job i had before this i didnt give a 2 week notice, i picked up my pay check on a tuesday, i was scheduled for wednesday and the rest of the week. i never stepped foot in that place again. you want to scream and yell at someone im not the man for you. im not a ##### boy, i told that guy to his face hes lucky i have a house to pay for otherwise i wouldnt mind doing a few months for smashing his face in.

    im happy where im at now. i just got a 12% raise, my boss is a good guy he takes care of me. my supervisor, not so much, but he doesnt sign my paycheck and my boss doesnt listen to him anyway so i dont really pay much attention to him. come to think of it no one does.
     
  11. wicked

    wicked Bobtail Member

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    How do you get a new job lined up while driving OTR?
     
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