When your luck runs out

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Level 1, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    :biggrin_25514: I have thoes days too .. :biggrin_25514:

    I will not hesatate to shoot a intruder ...here in Seminole if you enter a home you can be shot no questons asked ..... There is 6 officers on my block from 3 agancys so breakins here are not common.

    However in radio the FCC RULES and the courts will back them when you get a radio you agree to follow the rules now if you don't agree with them
    work on getting them changed

    BTW .....

    The FCC HERE in Tampa will send you a letter FIRST if they feel there is a problem by the time they show up your done ....
     
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  3. Gadfly

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    Well, mobile stations are subject to inspection as well (Read Part 95, US Code). Anyone who keys a mike, and that signal is determined to be emanating from your car, house, or big rig is subject to inspection. You can refuse the inspection, that's true, BUT.............there's a catch. You will (or can be) fined for that refusal! The act of the REFUSAL is actionable. Maybe up to $7,000 per offense. Often it is better to just let them in, plead ignorance, and you might be let off with a warning. This "trips up" a many a CBer who does not understand the rules and confuses "search and seizure" laws while attempting to wrap himself up in the Constitution! It won't work. If you've been operating one of those bootleg "leenyars":biggrin_255:, they already KNOW; they can measure the direction and distance TO that signal from Cumberland, MD!:biggrin_25524::yes2557:. Their mobile units are like "OnStar" on steroids; I've SEEN it!!! Amazing, and being mobile won't help. They can track you if they want to! Question is, do they WANT to unless there's a complaint. Pob'ly not.
    OTH, if you DO get on their radar, look OUT!

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  4. Gadfly

    Gadfly Medium Load Member

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    Perfect example of the misunderstanding I spoke about. It comes from NOT READING THE RULES GOVERNING YOUR USE OF A CB RADIO. Everything comes with rules of some sort, whether self-imposed or by a government. You can't have it both ways; allowing you to pursue an activity that can, by its very nature, interfere with the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others" while ignoring their rights as well. Someone somewhere determines that harm, and radio, over a long period of time, HAS been shown to interfere with others' enjoyment, commerce or life. Hence the rules.

    They do NOT force their way into your house. They have already have evidence that you have been operating a radio by the presence of a signal coming into their measuring equipment. They have determined where that signal is coming from by computer and triagulation techniques (see previous post). Once they had determined a signal IS present (or has been) they arrive at your house with this evidence to confront you with it. They ASK you to VOLUNTARILY submit to a technical inspection of your station. Even TV stations must submit to inspection. If you refuse, they will NOT force their way into your house or violate your "rights". They will then cite you for that act of refusal which you, whether you READ the rules or not, agreed to abide by the moment you keyed a mike. Your responsibility, as control operator of your station is to READ the rules (Part 95), and ABIDE by all of them. You do not HAVE to use a CB radio, so your freedom of speech is not abridged or violated, so when you voluntarily begin to use a radio to project your voice over the air, you are having an effect on others. So, like it or not, you are subject to the rules that govern CB radio. If you want that changed, it is up to you and your Congressional Rep to get it changed. Before you jump on me, remember, I didn't make the rules: I just have to follow them or receive the same treatment.:biggrin_2559: That IS how it works.

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  5. Big_m

    Big_m Heavy Load Member

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    Rat, the FCC wrote rules where they are to win no matter what. And everyone else loses. They even have there own judges to stack the deck. So if you don't let them in you'll most likely lose with a BIG fine.
     
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  6. Gadfly

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    You're gonna lose either way. If you let them in, and they determine you have been repeatedly violating the rules with amplifiers, splattering signals, non-approved equipment, they may fine you. If you have been interfering with..........say, an airport, for example, do you not think you deserve discipline for endangering the public's safe travel? Turn the shoe around, as they say, and put yourself on that airplane coming into land. The pilot's Glide Slope, or his navigation radio is "acting funny". You don't know it, but you are 15 seconds from crashing into a nearby field because you are "short" on your approach. By the time the ATC tells you to PULL UP! PULL UP! It is too late. Would you then think it was "fair" that somebody with a "toy" (a CB radio, except when it is used for trucking business) KILLED you? If some pervert hurt your child, what if there were no "rules", no police agency given the power to find and bring the guilty party to justice? Don't you think anarchy would not result? So what people who gripe about FCC rules are saying is, they want NO one to govern or regulate their activities! They don't CARE about anyone else: I just want "fire in th' wire" and the loudest, splattering signal North of the Pecos and the heck with anyone else. They want it ALL THEIR way, and it all comes down to the fact that, first of all, they are not trained to realize the disaster that causes, even the lives it can cost!

    Somebody, somewhere has to set rules---just as most of us set rules for our children. Otherwise they---and all of us, for that matter, would go astray and do harm to others in some way. In the case of FCC, they do a "fair" job of regulating the airwaves, so I would ask just what you want in place of it---realistically?

    They only go after people when they DO something to cause it. WE, OTH, always think we are innocent! :biggrin_2559: If we weren't "doing something" they wouldn't be knocking on our doors!!! In 50 years of radio, I have NEVER been "in trouble" with FCC. Why should YOU be fearful of allowing them to inspect your station?:biggrin_2554:

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