cr england

A lot of Dan's kids now work for their uncle down the road at pride so I would hazard a guess that they don't even care about the one's with their last name.

 

called these people went through 2 weeks of phone calls for them to tell me pam isnt hiring outta my area rite now

 

What does that have to do with the
price of tea in China? :smt017:smt102

 

I talk to current and former drivers all day long and whoever is saying that the bad experience at CR England is limited to only a handful of drivers is either trolling or severly uninformed. I hear the same complaint from lease holders at CR England: near the middle to end of a lease they reduce miles so the take-home for the driver is not enough to pay bills or live on, forcing them to drop the lease.

Who knows, maybe the CR Englandites are employees or even recruiters for that company.

 

Right..... So you have one post on this forum, which bashes CRE; and you tell people that they are the ones trolling when they correct the BS that gets posted here? Who's doing the trolling? It ain't me.

CRE has over 6,000 drivers. To judge a company based on what you hear from a handful of drivers is ignorant, at best. My mileage never got docked as a IC. Most of the time, I could barely keep up with what the load planners were giving me.

Next time you hear drivers complaining about not getting loads, why don't you ask them the following questions:

How many late loads do you have that were your fault?

How many claims do you have?

How many log violations do you have?

How many accidents do you have?

How often do you complain about anything and everything?

Instead of sitting at a truckstop complaining about low miles, why aren't you bugging your DM for a load?

DM's have their select few drivers that they view as their 'favorites'. These drivers never complain about anything, they accept every load given to them and run it, they are never late, they communicate on a regular basis, they don't have any log violations, etc.

If you don't fall into this category, then yeah; you aren't going to be a favorite and you aren't going to get the loads/miles. If this is you, it's not the company that's wrong. It's you. Perhaps you should find yourself another career, because no matter what the company name is on the side of the truck, you're going to find something to complain about.

 

Well using your logic: you are judging the company based on only one driver's experience, your own. I happen to be a recruiter and I have probably 15 names in the last month all with a similar story, most of whom were hired on with other far more demanding (read difficult to sign on with) companies after I talked with them.

Secondly, you didnt even buy the truck. Your experience is only loosely applicable to the posting.

And I apologize if I seem like Im being an ### but I really dont want new drivers seeing this and thinking maybe CR England is a decent company. And no i am not trying to sell anybody on a job, that is why Im not listing any of the companies I recruit for.

 

Where in that post did I say anything positive or negative about CRE? My posts aren't biased like the majority of the posts on this forum are, to include yours. CRE isn't the greatest company out there, but they aren't the worst either. They are a OTR carrier, just like any other mainstream OTR carrier out there.

If you failed at leasing, that's no ones fault but your own. You don't have to lease a truck to drive for CRE. You don't have to train or team up with anyone either. It's your decision to make, and yours alone. CRE isn't going to hold your hand to make sure you make the right decision, and neither is any other mainstream OTR carrier. You're a adult. Rather than point the finger, man up to your mistakes, learn from them, and move on.

I didn't always make a positive paycheck as a IC. On the opposite side of the coin, I never threw a temper tantrum about it either. I realized leasing a truck wasn't my cup of tea, but I didn't quit leaving myself a debt. I finished the lease, returned the truck, and switched to company. I've been with CRE for a year now, and I couldn't be happier with my situation because I'm capped out on CPM pay and I average 3,000 miles a week as a solo company driver. The leasing program at CRE is designed for team operations. It isn't meant for solo drivers. If you team up with another driver, you can make a good living as a IC at CRE. My Phase II trainer for example makes 2,500 a week take home on average. If you want to drive solo, then your best option is to go company; especially if you don't have any business management experience.

 

If the lease is designed for teams...then why do they let solos lease?...and a trainer/ student is not a legitimate team either so don't even bother justifying it because it's not.

 

It's like I said, CRE isn't going to hold your hand. No OTR company will. CRE also doesn't know if you're going to team or be solo until you put a 2nd seat in that truck. It's your responsibility to read the contract/lease agreement before you sign it. If you don't like the terms of the contract, don't sign it. It's that simple. If you sign before you read, you might as well be signing your soul to the devil himself.

It's simple math. With most lease contracts at CRE, it takes 2,200 miles a week just to break even. As a solo OTR driver, you aren't going to drive more than 3,000 miles a week. It will be less than that depending on whether or not you turn in a trip pack before the cutoff time. Example: You drop off a load in Mass on Thursday morning and work on a 34 hour reset. Your next reload doesn't pick up 'till monday, and it's going to SoCal. It takes you 5 days to drive to SoCal. Guess what? That means it's Friday when you drop off the load. One day after the weekly cutoff (Thursday). You aren't getting paid next week. Yet you are still going to have a truck payment and other fixed costs deducted. The majority of solo IC's fail because they don't forsee events like this.

If you want to make more money, the truck needs to be moving more than 3,000 miles a week. How do you do that? You team up with someone. It's simple logic that many student drivers lack.

 

Now we're gettin' somewhere.

If business management makes the difference,
why not require, or provide, it for those seekin'
to be their own boss?

I seriously doubt that C.R.E. loses any money when an IC goes belly up.
So what incentive is there for C.R.E. to screen out those considered incapable of comprehending all that's involved in a lease?
Follow the Money Trail.
I suggest that if C.R.E. lost money, or just broke even when an IC fails, there'd be fewer failures.

In a previous post you wrote, "DM's have their select few drivers that they view as their favorites. These drivers never complain, they accept every load given to them and run it", .... yada, yada, yada. Is it possible for a DM to favor every driver they dispatch?
Not too likely.
If not likely, it would seem that those drivers who are not favored are necessary.
On the flip side of the coin, would it be possible for a DM to despise every driver that they dispatch?

A dispatcher can easily make or break even the best of the best drivers. A good workin' relationship with dispatchers is something to strive for. But should a personality clash be reason enough for a dispatcher to black-ball a driver as a result? Especially when causing financial hardship and/or ruin?
A little too much power in the wrong hands can spell disaster.
Is that what L/O's with known limited experience deserve for makin' a mistake they were encouraged to make by the company with the ability to control their destiny?
I'd venture to say the best of the best dispatchers pay the least attention to personalities and more on the performance. A discerning dispatcher will hear complaints and understand what's necessary to reduce complaints to a mere grumble, at least. It's unproductive for both when a dispatcher builds a wall betwixt their clashing personalities, --- which goes the other way as well.
Dispatchers hold their drivers' reason for drivin' a Big truck in their hands. That's a lot of powah and responsibility for any individual to have control over. I'd hate to think that C.R.E. DM's are prone to abusing that powah by over-doin' their personal favoritism for those who "never complain".
HaiL!
Compalinin' goes with the territory.
If a dispatcher can't handle complaints, perhaps they oughta try doin' somethin' a tad simpler, --- like drivin' a Big truck, and hopin' for a good dispatcher who'll put 'em on their favorite list.

Besides, who ever said a dispatcher is supposed to like their job?

You also mentioned readin' the contract and understandin' what's contained within it.
That's excellent advice. :smt045
Which causes me to wonder why C.R.E. won't allow the contract to leave the room if one prefers to have their attorney look the contract over and render a more understandable explanation as to how, exactly, the contents pertain to them, --- as well as any potential pitfalls and/or unreasonable terms?
Can the Sons-0-Chester be trusted to provide an accurate explanation for anything not completely understood in their contract?

In your opinion, should the C.R.E. contract be allowed to be reviewed by an attorney?
Would/Did you sign a contract that you didn't completely understand?

I find it difficult to accept that what you consider to be only a "handful" of failures were entirely the fault of the IC and the Sons-0-Chester deserve no blame what-so-evah.
But whatda I know?
I'm just a driver with the ability to discern, --- seekin' an elusive truth.