Good day, ladies and gentlemen. I wanted to post and vent. First time using any type of social media so forgive me if I don't get this right the first time. You should be made aware that JCT is not a good company to work for. They tell you that you are an Independent Business person. However you are not. They give you the load they want you to have, if you refuse the load they will let you sit til the next day and send you the same load with different delivery dates. You can do that as many times as you can stand to sit without making any money. If you question them about this being a business relationship from all parties you are then labled as a bad driver and will be silently forced to quit or get let go by some company rule or policy that they can stand on.
I made decent money, but I can count on one hand the number of times I was able to go home with no fingers being used. They did however pas me thru the state so I could at least know what it looked like. The day I went in to complain about the planners and how I was being dispatched was the day they gave me some boxes and told me have a good life and don't talk to them anymore. They use this guy by the name of David to watch you and escort you off the property as if you were a criminal.
To all of you considering JCT think long and hard. If you are willing to have someone else dictate to you how to run your business and not allow you to be an Independent thinker and business person. They will only allow you to make what they feel you should make. The dispatcher will let you know that because he will compare what you bring home to his check.
STAY AWAY IF YOU ARE NOT BROWN NOSER OR OFFICE POLITICAL PERSON. IF YOU DONT KISS JUST RIGHT THEN BE LOOKING AT BEING LEFT IN THE COLD IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE OKLAHOMA.
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Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by Bronx1151, Dec 6, 2011.
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I never could understand drivers refusing loads, you work for them, not them for you. It all evens out. I drove a cab years ago, worked the airport (LAX). Drivers would try to "pick and choose" their fares, I would take anything and many times upon return to the taxi stand, same drivers still there, still trying to pick the "high dollar" fare. If you're on good terms with dispatch, ask nicely for a certain area. It's always worked for me. Oh yeah, the business part of L/O ? We're talking the money part, not the destination of your loads.
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That sounds like most every company, if you aren't willing to work when there is work to do you'll miss out on home time and end up being labeled a bad driver.Rollover the Original Thanks this. -
JCT is everything that was said plus alot more... grrrrrr we went thru this in June.. yep given boxes
Bronx1151 Thanks this. -
If you are leasing a truck you are NOT a business until the stupid truck is paid off!
That is where they bend the ones that believe the lease plan bait and switch. Not to mention all the warnings on many trucker web sites!
You've been driving for 12 years and still haven't figured out the LP scam?
And why is it these L/P drivers can pick where they go? Do they think because they "don't do where ever" their dispatcher is going to keep sending more loads to them?
All of you who do NOT own your tractor and trailer out right need to figure out that it's NOT your truck yet! When they give you a load and not a choice between 2 or 3 then why turn it down? Are you making such good money that sitting another few hours or days is worth "I don't do where ever?"
All you are right now is a company driver paying to play truck driver! You are paying to drive that POS because if it was your truck you would be making MORE than that pathetic less than a dollar a mile and "part" of the FSC they are feeding you!
Get over that "I don't do" and just get it and go! It's a load, it's on a road, all the roads have pavement and lines drawn on them and the same stupid 4 wheelers there as where you just came from!
As I said if you're making such good money then by all means turn down loads as well you don't go there so just wait for the next POS load they give you and when the dispatchers and Load planners get tired of your "I don't go there" attitude guess who will be looking for another job which will pretty hard if the next ones you apply to see that you "don't go there" will file 13 your app and go to the next!
The ONLY exception to that is if they want you to go into chain law areas then that's about the only reason for "I don't!"drvrtech77, rollin coal and michaelsrollin Thank this. -
What crawled up your butt?
Are leases really that bad. The way I see it, as long as they are a walkway, no penalty lease, then what's the big deal?
You could be a company driver for 4 years, make crappy money and in 4 years still be a company driver.
Or you could lease a truck, yes be a glorified company driver for 4 years, but at the end of the 4 years get a truck for a $1 buyout like JCT has. And make double the money in that 4 years. Netting $1200 or $1300 a week is better than $700 or $800. Not quite double, but still considerably more.
Long as it's a walkway lease with no balloon payment at the end of lease, then what's wrong?
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Okay, perrhaps I have struck a nerve amongnst some of us!!! I for one did not refuse but one load, unto which i was refering. I am not in the business to sit around.
As for the opinion by one that you are not a business until the truck is paid off!!?? Well let me help you out. I am and do have a business. I am incorporated and the lease was signed in the corporations name with me as an officer of the corp. Companies prefer you sign as an individual so the can come at you down the road later. The way I operate is as a bussiness all the time. I paid myself a salary and operated my entity. So maybe your not a business but I do operate a bussiness. As for not being one til you own the truck the is not true. Corporations and small businesses use Financing and other things to buy their business equipment and the last thing I remember a truck is business equipment. Having working capital is also how things work too. Corporation and small businesses take out loans for that also. So the truck and trailer are the banks til you pay them off. This does not eliminate you as a business. I do operate a Corporation contruary to your opinon.
What I and I alone was voicing my opinon on what happened to me and warning others of the practices of the company. I never bashed the company, I gave my experience and opinion.
As for me I have found a company that allows me to select from a load board and recieve a percentage of the gross linehaul + fsc. I will have the option to point the truck in whatever direction my little heart desires. I wont be waitng on some to decide for me how much my business can make that week.
I thank you for all of your vauled opinions.
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OK that's a good way to not say anything! You can be Incorporated all you want or until the cows come home! Doesn't cut much mustard.
When you lease from JCT, Crete, England, Knight, Swift or any of the other trucking companies that's a joke calling yourself an INC. with one truck!
You can sing the owner song all you want but to those who have been in trucking long enough know that you're not a business until you have TOTAL CONTROL of the truck! That means I don't go there actually means you don't go there as you are the one brokering the loads or are given several loads to choose from, how you get there where you fuel, and the toys you can put on the truck. You do not get much leeway in an L/P deal.
You can attempt to BS the uninformed but we all know when doing an L/P with most of these trucking companies (BFIs) you aren't a "business" you're a driver paying to drive a truck.
NOW. If you had leased a tractor form Penske, Ryder or companies that only rent/lease and not broker loads like all the BFIs out there but you with your own trailer or a company like Dart or even Prime you really are not a "business" It doesn't matter how you honey coat that INC or LLC it still isn't a real business just a dream until that truck has that INC name on the title.
Walk away or whatever the contract says does not matter in this part of trucking when leased with most of these L/P companies.
As to what crawled up my arse Stoney. Nothing. I do not sugar coat anything in TTR. I come right out and put the truth in your face. Don't like it no big deal. My stance on L/P plans is known in here. There is really only one way to become an owner and that's to float your own load, spec the truck you want for what you need to do and get the trailer. These pathetic L/P deals and the hype that, that out of work car sales person called a recruiter feed these people is beyond the pale. Then to fall for it with any experience, well sorry that's another thread all by itself!
Yeah that "walk away" lease really worked for him when they "escorted" him off the property!
Get that tractor and trailer in your name with a real loan and an operating expence account you saved up for and stay away from BFI that leases you a beat to death truck thats had several different wanna be owners in it before you got it.
The authority , tags, insurance and other costs are NOT as high as these BFI's are charging you for out of the real rates that are paid! Check them out and stay away from BFI Lease Plan companies that make you think they are helping you to become an O/O At more than half the rate when YOU are making most of those payments to haul their freight!
I laugh at the ads that say $.98 CPM and a $.25 FSC! If the rate (CPM) is NOT the same numbers or actually higher per mile it's a scam! But they fall for it all the time thinking BFI is doing me a favor helping me to get a POS truck!michaelsrollin, rollin coal and kelgar50 Thank this. -
One question...If you were a business owner, How was it that they were able to "fire" you?
The answer is...Because you owned nothing and therefore were at the mercy of the company that actually owned the truck
Get this straight boys and girls...Until your name is on that title YOU ARE NOT AN OWNER/OPERATOR!!!rollin coal, Lonesome, Rollover the Original and 5 others Thank this. -
Ok, I need to apologize. There's two threads called JCT. I thought a poster who had sone bad things to say bout JCT was posting on the thread.
This is the bad company section, and this poster was not out of line in his post.
My bad. Sorry.
Conservative to the Bone.
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