ATA Appeals HOS ruling

Great thanks for posting this, been out of town and I have not been updated with this information although I knew ATA was going to do this.

Thanks

 

Don't think disruption in the supply chain trumps people dying. Anyway freight is slow, so no disruption.

 

Maybe you just read the headlines. The details are soooo boring.

So the court's ruling may be a disruption, and, cause more fatalities.

Apparently, the judges' lack of common sense does trump people dying.

 

Maybe you are the one who only reads headlines and then believes them. Do you think after you have been driving 10 hours straight that the next hour you will be driving more alertly? If you do, then you haven't read very much and have no common sense. Go to trucksafety.org if you want to read. Just because truck fatalities (one statistic) may have dropped does not mean it is because of the HOS change from 10 to 11 hours of driving. What were the fatalities in 2005? A decline in fatalities tells me nothing? What were the total fatalities, injuries, accidents each year in relationship to freight miles? Freight was down last year and this year. Unless your intelligence is in the top 2% of the population you probably shouldn't question my reading comprehension. All you are reading is a statistic that is used for propaganda, and don't have the brains to think things out for yourself. Even if I could not read, I could understand that driving skill decreases after 10 hours of driving.

 

When the question is stated as you put it, then the answer is an obvious, no. However, driving continuously for that many hours is not only bad for a driver's health, but, it is uncomfortable as hello, and there is no practical reason to want to do it. What is more realistic is breaking the drive into segments. I dare say most, if not all, drivers take occasional breaks, thus making your question illogical and lacking "common sense".

Even a blind dog can find a bone. How right you are. Probably reducing the shift from fifteen hours to fourteen, without an option of stopping the clock to lengthen the fifteen hours had a positive effect. Or maybe it was increasing the rest period from eight hours to ten hours. That might of helped. Oh wait! Drivers now get thirty-four hours of rest to enable them to re-start the seventy hour clock. We never used to get that much consecutive time off before. It's hard to determine which of these was the magic bullet. It's likely a combination of them all, but definitely not because the ten hour driving time was changed to eleven. Good job!

4.7% more than 2006.

It tells me less people died. Actually ton miles were down in some segments, up in others. Overall, it was about flat, maybe a 2% decline. 2007 is proving to be the off year. A degree in mathematics would be required to completely analyze the numbers, and those results could be skewed in any direction an activist group (either side) wanted.

Okay... What's your point.

So if the statistics meet your agenda's criteria they are facts. If they don't, it is propaganda fed to those of us who are, in your opinion, "brainless"? Just because you and I read similar articles and come away with different thoughts and ideas does not mean either of us is brainless, although sometimes I wonder about some of the gibberish folks blabber about.

You're repeating yourself. You mentioned that in your first paragraph.

 

It all depends on the Person I for 1 have been driving Solid 11hr shifts for so long it doesn't bother me but thats not always the case...

there are some days where i stop to break up the monotony of driving, while others I'm wide awake not even tired after i finish my 11th hr of driving and stay up a little and hang out with my wife on the internet.

but there are other days where i drive for 5 or 6 hours and all of a sudden i just get tired my eyes get heavy and the moment i feel unsafe i pull over and make a quick phone call to walmart, if me pulling over will make me late, and if its during the day i aim for a rest area unless its 35+ miles away i will go for a truck stop at night if theres no parking I'm headed to a on ramp to sleep for 2 hours...

Not every trucker is a moron and Forces them selves to stay awake i love the 11 hr drive time that Equates to me earning roughly an extra $20.04 more a day and thats 120.04 a week and IF your not a Trucker i don't think that u understand that our pay checks are based upon 100% productivity, if i drive 1 mile less i loose $0.35 on my pay check,

AS it stands Right now i have the Potential to Earn $227.50 a day (650mi) and when u start screwing with how many hours i can drive and reducing it your directly reducing my paycheck....

Hey life is a Risk and you cant Legleslate against Stupidity, your just hurting the honest guy who is trying to support his/her family out here on the road, you cant live in a perfect world with nice soft foamy things on every corner and cars that never crash and kids that never get run over some point it falls on personal responsibility and everyone is different and you have to live with that

ALSO how many car accidents were there last year, how many of those were fatalities and whats the relationship of those to Semi's, we may have a higher % of killing someone when we crash but the percentage of us that do wreak compared to the percentage of cars that crash and burn are drastically different...

How would u feel if your Car had a black box in it and BY LAW u only have 10 hours a day that u can Potentially Drive your Car to and from work, and then you work over time or the boss asks you to stay late, and u pass your hour drive time now how do u think your going to get home?

and you had Random Inspections and had to log every thing u did in your car and every where u went and were subject to ticketing if you falsified your log book because u wanted to go home but u worked late now your driving Illegal and the Cop says HEY your CAR IS impounded for the next 24 hours so u can get some rest, how are u going to make any money? how are u going to get to work?

these may not be the best scinaro's but there has to be a way of equating how our job works for people who don't drive 18 wheelers to understand

 

How many 4 wheelers go to work early on Friday before a holiday and drive 10 or so hours after working. It is no different than the big truck. There is just no monetary incentive for PD to look at the cars. If they had to pull into weigh stations, verify where they slept the night before, when they last stopped, etc., maybe we would have less accidents.

 

You showed your intelligence 2xr. You have low reading comprehension. I don't think you are a truck driver anyway and know nothing of what you speak. You say take breaks, but you can not take many breaks driving 11 hours out of a 14 hour day when you spent 3 hours sitting in a dock. If you would have looked at the study on the website I mentioned you would see the deterioration of driving ability each hour after 8, with a big drop after 10.

 

I could argue with you (and yours) forever, and you could continue to hurl insults forever, yet, we'd never resolve our different opinions and come to an amicable agreement. Thankfully, someone else will decide this issue for us.