Oct. 27 8:35pm It happened - Truck Rollover

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by netxjoe, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. SlaveOf18Wheels

    SlaveOf18Wheels Light Load Member

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  3. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Then you don't know as much as you think you do, or haven't thought about it at all. You stop at every green light just in case someone might run the red? No, you don't. You stop to test every bridge in case it collapses under you as you go across like the big I-35 bridge that went down? No, you don't. You have a lexan windshield in case an owl miscalculates and lands on your face, or a deer falls off an overpass as you go under it? No, you don't. I could go on, but do I really need to?
     
  4. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    OK....OK....#### happens and we have no control over anything!


    Happy now?

    How do so many of us get to the 2 million or the 4 million mile point without all of the problems that so many others have?

    Luck?

    No....It isn't luck because "luck" is non existent.
    Some of us pay attention more thoroughly than others and just do a better job of avoiding most of the situations that get so many into trouble.

    I have rarely if ever read a post here where some guy that rolled his truck or hit a car or something else came in and said..."I had an accident because I'm not a very good driver."
    They all say stupid crap like "I'm a really good driver but, "#### happens!"

    I know that there are sometimes (rarely) situations that are beyond your control such as the drunk that hit me in 1984 and rolled me over. Could that accident have been avoided?

    Possibly but at the time I apparently didn't posess the skills knowledge to see it coming and take evasive action...
    I was not cited for anything and it was deemed non chargeable so it wasn't a big deal for me.

    But I'll tell you this....A single vehicle crash on a dry road with no evidence of mechanical failure is 100% driver error! 100% of the time.
    Sorry to break the news to you...But that's the way it is.

    It's not a case of "#### happens" it's case of I don't know what I did wrong to cause this crash!
    As sure as I'm sitting her typing this post...The driver did something wrong to cause this wreck.
     
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  5. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Yeah, right. I couldn't put 18 wheels sideways on dry pavement without leaving a mark if I tried, and I doubt you could either.
     
  6. netxjoe

    netxjoe Bobtail Member

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    I assure you, you can. I would have never thought it could happen either, but it did. Please guys, I didn't put this up here for folks to fight about or anything, just did it as a reminder to not become complacent. You guys stay safe and God Bless.
     
  7. papanuge

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    Sorry for your situation and am happy you have a good comp program. BUT they are not looking out for your best interest. They are looking out for the insurance company.
    Be smart, do some research and find a reputable lawyer. (If there is such a thing) You will be better off in the long run.
     
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  8. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    I would of expected more insight from you. We both know that no one has any control over other peoples actions/thoughts or for that matter equipment failure. Your kidding yourself if you think you have. Tell me you have never had a blow out on a tire or an animal run out in front of you. Yes there is luck,some people live by it and others use it up.
     
  9. blackw900

    blackw900 The Grandfather of Flatbed

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    Yes....I have blown out tires, even steer tires back in the day when there was no power steering on trucks.

    I have had plenty of animals run out in front of me and have smashed quite a few dogs, cats, skunks and other small animals that are hard to see at highway speeds and are not worth trying to avoid.

    I have always been able to miss the deer because when I'm in areas that have a lot of deer I am very watchful and I slow down a little bit to give myself a better chance of not hitting one...

    They're pretty big and easy to spot if you're actually paying attention.

    It seems to have worked because in 4,000,000 plus miles I have never hit a deer.

    As I stated before...I have been hit once by a drunk in southern California in the mid eighties that came in on my blind side and had I been as attentive as I am now I would have probably seen him coming and been more prepared for the impact.

    You cannot control other people and you obviously cannot read their minds but what you can do is ALWAYS be paying attention to what's going on around you.
    In most cases there is a component of failure on the drivers part in a truck accident even of the accident is determined to be "Non Preventable".

    I don't believe in luck.

    The reason we have so many truck rollovers these days is because we have too many MORONS driving trucks that should neve be allowed to even stand near a truck!
    We have people out here that have no idea about the mechanics of the equipment that they're driving or of the actual physical forces at work when the truck is in motion.
    They sit there like an idiot looking out the windshield with no understanding about what they're doing.

    I talk to drivers at truckstops that don't know what engine is in their truck or even what year model it is or anything else about it.
    It's ridiculous how little these "so called" drivers know about the job they're trying to do and the equipment that they do it with.
     
  10. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    Well you've got a point. If a guy is driving a truck he should at least know what engine is in it. Yellow,Red,Black;-) I have not driven on the road for a number of years because of the unsafe work environment drivers have to deal with daily and 2 fatality accidents that were non preventable. I use to think I was a good driver or at least respectful and alert but apparently I was mistaken. I guess driving a logger is not the same as highway. Deer will hide in the brush for hours waiting for YOU to come along and bail into the side of your truck. Now how do you adjust for that? Anyways I hope you can keep your good record intact till you retire. I was not so fortunate.
     
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  11. CondoCruiser

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    That is true. We all have our moments of distractions too. In traffic, our guard my be up more. Cruising out in the middle of nowhere, you might be more relaxed.


    Only the driver knows and is sticking to his story. I did look on google earth 10 miles out like he said. Flat country, 2 lane road with a 2-4' shoulder varying. Winds will flip a truck. Only a tornado will turn one sidewards. He was eastbound. Winds are predominately out of the west and south there. Trucks just don't twist around even on gravel or ice. It takes actions of the driver.

    Maybe it's more like I was texting the old lady telling her I was almost there. I drifted off the shoulder, over corrected and lost it. But we can't say that. :)

    The main thing he survived the inevitable.
     
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