well they finally nailed me - forced into electronic logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by iceman3525, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. popmartian

    popmartian Road Train Member

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    Is it about mega-fleets using the OBER to manage productivity and keeping the wheels rollin or controlling long haul drivers?


    2011 Final Rule
    The goal of this rulemaking is to reduce excessively long work hours that increase both the risk of fatigue-related crashes and long-term health problems for drivers. A rule cannot ensure that drivers will be rested, but it can ensure that they have enough time off to obtain adequate rest on a daily and weekly basis. The objective of this rule, therefore, is to reduce both acute and chronic fatigue by limiting the maximum number of hours per day and week that the drivers can work. On average, the rule reduces a driver’s maximum allowable hours of work per week from 82 hours to 70 hours, a 15% reduction. The 15% reduction in the average maximum allowable hours of work based on the new rule results from the restrictions on the use of the restart period.


    The rule will mainly affect drivers who work more than 70 hours a week on a continuing basis. These drivers are mostly a subset of long-haul truckload drivers. Local drivers and less-than-truckload drivers, who rarely work more than 5 days a week, are unlikely to be affected.

    http://www.jjkeller.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore/references/transport/2011/122211HOSRuleQAs.pdf



    A BILL
    To require the use of electronic on-board recording devices
    in motor carriers to improve compliance with hours of
    service regulations.
    1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa
    2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Commercial Driver
    5 Compliance Improvement Act’’.
    6 SEC. 2. ELECTRONIC ON-BOARD RECORDING DEVICES.

    7 (a) AMENDMENTS.—Subchapter III of chapter 311

    8 of title 49, United States Code, is amended—
    9 (1) in section 31132—

    read more...

    http://www.eobrforsafety.org/files/MDM11207.pdf

    IF this becomes Law, All Interstate trucks will have to comply!
     
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  3. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    Well said.

    And the ones that whined the least managed their time the best. I saw and managed the "new breed" of drivers about 8 years ago. The guy who would scream and cry because he couldn't get his 10 hour break. So, I would bring him in the yard, hop in his truck and go down to the plant and spend 2 hours loading his outbound, while he was home for 10 hours.

    Then, he would come to work, go an hour down the road, and pull over and go to sleep, because during said 10 hour break, he got 20 minutes of sleep.

    It was a lot nicer back in the day when you could manage your own time built around your body clock.

    Me too. In fact, I was contemplating smashing my head on the desk and trying to read it again, but just gave up.

    Could you explain that better to us? I don't know if it is the residual brain damage from trying to read the last post in all CAPS. You have 3 Qualcomms? Or 3 driver ID's. Is that like having 2 log books? And when you cook your hours, is it steamed, broiled, boiled, baked, or sauteed ?? Just wondering.

    I usually keep a fresh bucket of feces and smear it all over my face before I even roll the window down. Then I start singing, "Manamana!" and they usually don't even ask to see my license!

    I haven't heard the word "pig" used with regard to law enforcement since the 70's. Wow.

    But, if you are keeping piss cups in the truck for 1-3 days..... :biggrin_2554:

    I'm sure the word "pig" was running through the LEO's mind as well.

    By the way, thanks for destroying any salad I am going to have for the next 12 years of my life with the visual.

    Drink more water, it's good for the kidneys.
     
  4. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    It's about $$$.... and to a much smaller degree about control.

    Think about it... Who is lobbying the most for the mandate?... besides, companies in the industry? Some research will tell you insurance companies... Who stands to profit from mandated EOBR's? EOBR service providers, correct? Who has major investments in EOBR companies... Gasp, just some of the largest insurance companies in the country.
     
  5. popmartian

    popmartian Road Train Member

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    You know some drivers will try to outsmart the DOT man with an EOBR. But the programmers have already built in tamper evident coding into the software and The Black Box(ECM) on your engine is already recording millions of bits of info.
     
  6. popmartian

    popmartian Road Train Member

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    You Nailed it! Follow the money...:biggrin_2559:
     
  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    i'm curious as to what would happen to the TRUE O/O. the one's that haul there own freight and report to NO company. when it comes to this eobr.
     
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  8. U2Exit

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    I make close to the middle of your wild assumptions.

    4000 is ridiculous.

    Ive logged over 3500 on elogs. Not every week but I have.

    2000 miles is ridiculous also. I average about 2700 a week.

    You caught me at the end of a great month. 5 weeks. 13,942 dispatched miles. 3 days in the shop at 3 different times, and 1 day lost sitting waiting for I-80 to open in WY.

    No I didnt make it home for the holidays, but that was my choice. I was given a choice... 4 days for one of the major holidays, or an entire week off at home in Jan.

    4 days max being the usual Company policy... So for me it was a good choice.
     
  9. U2Exit

    U2Exit Road Train Member

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    Wow! That wasnt your entire original post. You really edited that rant down! Second thoughts?
     
  10. Skip1965

    Skip1965 Medium Load Member

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    I ran loose leaf paper logs at Swift -Hated them - ATE UP MY TIME AS WELL - Cost me time and money.

    Ran with eLogs at Schneider and LOVE THEM - More miles - More money - less hours

    Log it as you run it. Follow HOS rules and you will be fine.
     
  11. rootintootinredneck

    rootintootinredneck Light Load Member

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    If you think eLogs are more "efficient" then paper logs, you're a mongoloid.
     
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