well they finally nailed me - forced into electronic logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by iceman3525, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. rootintootinredneck

    rootintootinredneck Light Load Member

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    3 qualcomms - and I like baked; even half baked is fine.

    Mmmmm - sounds hot!

    Hell no, pissing in cups is more efficient than stopping! Eat salads, they are good and nutritious - 95% water.

    I'm not drinking water - only diuretics; look at my face, I have enough water weight.
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    There is some controversy here . You can use personal conveyance when unladen . A very experienced FMCSA inspector told me unladen means no load , no bill of lading . An empty trailer would be unladen unless the trailer itself was the cargo being delivered or was a chemical trailer with residue . Our drivers have been told we can use personal conveyance when on the way home after leaving a tank wash .
     
  4. RickG

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    They're more efficient for the people in the office . We used to turn in paper logs to our home terminal . They were supposed to scan them to corporate . Logs were always getting lost along the way and drivers weren't turning them in when they were supposed to .
    Corporate safety would audit every log . Over 3,000 drivers' logs audited by computer in one office . While they were sending notices to drivers telling them they averaged 60.2 mph other drivers were fudging their logs by hours .
    FMCSA came in , compared logs to GPS from company Blackberrys and found all kids of violations .
     
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  5. shredfit1

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    I'm calling BS on this one. Blackberrys only store tracking data for 48 hours then refresh. Meaning the FMCSA, could go back and look at two days at the most. They could however, request a tower ping log from roaming towers and service towers....then, cross reference with a map of the towers, but this would tell them only approximate times as towers will ping depending on different atmospheric conditions...(in other words, they would have to cross reference weather, barometric pressure, air moisture content, temp...etc)
     
  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The carrier had a record of the tracking data .
     
  7. shredfit1

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    The carrier requests tracking data from all driver Blackberries EVERY two days then files it??? Seems like a lot of paperwork, and would require a full time person hired for this job alone, if your company has more then 10 drivers/trucks on the road.

    Again, I find this hard to believe.
     
  8. U2Exit

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    That is the dumbest statement I have ever heard.

    Why because you can cheat on paper?

    You can't give me one LEGAL advantage that paper has over Elogs in regards to efficiency.
     
  9. Cowpie1

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    Yeah, that would be a tough sell for me also. I have been on ELogs for a year now and even I think it is more efficient than messing with paper logs. It has to be for a carrier. Even when I get a copy of the logs each quarter for my own files, it is all electronic. I just download a PDF file of the logs to my computer. A whole year of logs in 4 files on my computer. No lost pages and easy to print up any or all pages if needed.
     
  10. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    How is that possible? How can anyone "push" you? Is anyone forced to leave home and work for a trucking company? I didn't realize that anyone was being actually forced to work for someone.

    Everyone talks about how Elogs are taking away some freedom. Won't argue with that, but there is no taking away anyone's freedom to not work for someone if they choose not to. And no one is required by law to move that truck 1 mile down the road. So, if someone is being "pushed" it is because they are allowing someone to push them voluntarily thru no mandate of government.

    I have been on an elog for over a year now. No one has "pushed" me. In fact, I decide. If the load cannot be done within the time frame the shipper / receiver / carrier wants, I let them know when I can be there and adjust the delivery time. Have had no issues. I stop when I want. And my NET income last year was almost $70K.

    I really could give a rip about who is looking at the elog or if the data is being transmitted in "real" time to company, government, or the CIA for that matter. If they want to waste their time looking at the data, that is their problem. I own the truck. I move it when I legally can, and stop it whenever I choose to. And no one, no elog, no regulation, can prevent me from continuing to drive if I am going home. I can legally drive clear across the country "off duty" if I am not doing anything involving interstate commerce. It is my truck.

    Sorry. No sell. Both you and OOIDA are wrong.
     
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  11. Duke

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    Some sort of tracking/logging system will be mandatory within the next couple of years. My guess is that it would only apply to fleets bigger than than a certain number of trucks (lets just say fleets bigger than 10 trucks). The equipment is really not that expensive and my guess is that companies will get grants or tax deductions to pay for it. Plus once a company is all switched over to a tracking/logging system, the company can cut an office person(or two). These systems do more than you think...like IFTA miles. How many of you still have to keep track of miles in each state?

    It's coming. its called evolution. Think of the future.... think of the past!
     
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