E-logs and Reality

I'm confused by pretty much that. I don't get it, or the point of it, or why they mention 168 hours. I'm also kind of whacked out on Nyquil and should quit posting.

 

The point of it is, somebody wants us to work a regular week like everybody else. They think that limiting a reset to only one within any 168 hour (7 day) period will make this happen.

Thank your friendly local Teamster for this.

 

Why? Just like now you will not be required to take a reset, it's an option not a mandate. Only now IF you choose to use a 34 as a reset you will have to remark when coming back on-duty that that 34 is your reset. You will not be allowed to say 2 days later it was.

 

It isn't rocket science to figure that, even if the 34 you take doesn't "qualify" under the new rule for a reset, that doing the recap you will still have over 13 hrs a day to work until your next 34 or qualified 34 for reset. Why are so many having a brain cramp when they do not have a full 70 hrs staring them in the face? There is no mandate to ever do a qualified 34 hr reset. And the majority of drivers never use a full 13 hrs a day, every day.

For those that can't seem to get their arms around how this new rule will work, just break out a log book when you get the time and run some "imaginary" runs in the book and see how taking a 34 that doesn't qualify as a reset plays out on paper using the recap. Just make sure you use "real world" estimates of drive times and such that you normally do and not some trumped up estimates to promote a preconception that you have that the sky is falling and the world will end under these new rules.

 

I think they say 168 hrs since trucking is a 24 hour gig. 168 hours is 7 24 hour periods. Within a period of 168 hrs, only ONE period of being off duty for 34 hrs can reset your 70 hrs. Your next qualifying reset cannot occur until 168 hrs have passed since the beginning of your last reset. Say you started your reset today at 0000 (1/5/12), meaning you come back on duty at 1000 tomorrow (1/6/12) you can't start another reset until 168 hrs have passed from 2359 (1/4/12) so you can reset again at 0000 (1/12/12), NOT have to wait 168 hrs from 1000 on 1/6/12 which would be 1000 on 1/13/12. The one reset occurs within the 168 hour period, not every 168 hrs. Make sense? If not maybe add some vodka to your NyQuil.

 

I told my wife to punch the UPS guy next time he delivers to our house.

 

You have GOT to be kidding me... What friggen difference does it make?

 

Can she give'em a kick for me, too?

 

1) The bean counter I was refering to IS when someone posted a FMCR study about reduced accident fatalities, in which HOS regs were a non factor in the data base pool size. In a nutshell, the data revealed that the decrease in accident fatalities had a direct correlation to better equipment, and better maintained equipment programs. Good job dieselbear!

2) It is NOT about saftey... Just because someone acts like a total idiot, and is so tired they are falling asleep as you write a citation is NOT a valid reason to call it safety... It's the same thing as a drunk idiot that cannot even stand, behind the wheels of a vehicle. Using your reasoning, should we then ban ALL alcohol from EVERYONE, thus stopping the one drunk idiot? Pre-emptive enforcement not only doesn't work... it can't.

There should also be a plethora of evidence of fatiuge related accidents during harvest HOS reg exemptions(ie the highways should be bloody). Gasp! Why is there NO such evidence?

Again, there is NOT a shred of evidence that HOS regs have improved safety.

 

Really?

I have no points for violations and I am totally against E-Logs and further government intrusion onto my business.

Spoken like a true "Office Dunce"

It makes no difference but it makes the idiots in the government "feel" like their doing something.
It makes the "Office Dunces" feel like they are of some use as well...Although those of us that run our own businesses know how useless the "office Dunces" really are and that all they really do is "overcomplicate" things in an effort to justify their useless selves.