there is a big differance between averageing your speed, and useing common sence vs maxing out 2 log books. IF you know what your doing there is no risk.....All scales/tolls/fuel match the log book 100% as do all QC messages, and the odomiter. So unless after an accident you jump out and say "omg im so sry its all my fault i drove 4 hours yesterday but logged it as 3.75!" your not going to get in any trouble.
Illegal is a bad word to use, SMART logging is the proper term. In a 65mph truck can you average 63mph? sure can but you aint gonna like how they day went down. Simply averageing your speed can allow you to stop and take 2-3 15 min breaks throught your 14 hr day and not loose your 11/70 or push back your 10.
Example:
Your in NJ, get a load from PA to NC. You head to the shipper, they take 6 hours to unload you.....you have to deliver at 0700 the next morning 9 hours away what do you do? customer says here's your paper work get off my property.....
PROPER Answer:
Drive 30min down the street to the TS and park for 3.5 hours, THEN scale the load then head south with a fresh 11/14 make your delivery ontime.
OR
You can be mr. lookbook;
And LOG the 30 min drive to the TS, then scale, then park for 10 hours, then Deliver 7 hours LATE
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By doing it the proper way, you had spent 6 hours in the sleeper at the shipper, then 3.5 at the TS thats 9.5 in the sleeper how much sleep do you need? then that 30 min drive TO the TS made it a 10 hour break. You logged AND scaled AFTER the 10 so that the time stamp on the recipt matched your logbook....Where were you at risk in this sceinario?
When you left the shipper your log book SHOULD have had you log 15 min on line 4 to load when you got there then the 6 hours on line 2 and STOPED there DO NOT draw the line down (in the event of and acident that you end up unconsious you say "i forgot to draw the line down, and based on you paper work, customer saying he left at xxx time and where you were you would be FINE!, and in the other bad thing that could happen you get pulled over...in the time it takes the cop to get his butt out of his car and waddel the 75+ feet to your truck meanwhile you draw a 1/4" line to line 3 as if nothing ever happend....
so no risk, you got sleep, no one got hurt, and you delivered on time.
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Switching the entire company to eLogs by April 1st
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Meltom, Jan 21, 2012.
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You're right, they are coming and we'll have them, like it or not. I posted that statement a while ago, and it was basically ignored or poo-poo'd by many. Well, they have that right. IF mileage does fall, for those that are working within the regs and wages become unlivable, then there will be a driver shortage like one reads about. Insurance carriers are the ones that dictate how much experience is required for this job by variable rates. You want less experience, you pay more. Many carriers aren't willing to foot that bill. So, if they want quality and experience, they're going to HAVE to come off the dime and pay.
Planners will be forced to use realistic delivery quotes and dispatchers will be unable to urge drivers to "pad" logs as has been done in the past...
And if a driver wants to leave simply due to the fact that they can't cook the books, well then that's their decision to make.
While not in the trucking industry that long, I've been in the TRANSPORTATION industry for decades, and required to maintain logs that are routinely examined by the DOT, USCG and IMO. And they'd #### well best be accurate. I've never cooked a book, falsified a log, and I'm not about to start now. If that makes me something less than a trucker, then so be it. -
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http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/11/1770478/nc-trucking-company-owner-may.html
Trucker in deadly Schuylkill Expressway crash pleads guilty to falsifying logs
http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/ar...line_times/news/doc4e8a6d4570d17278706578.txt
Driver charged with falsifying logs:
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...convicts-hoosier-truck-driver-falsifying.html
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Are there any of your drivers that were admantly opposed and now see no problem? Maybe a bit of paid salemanship on their part would help ease the transition?
I think most people are resistant to change , regardless. We like what we know.Meltom Thanks this. -
You definitely have a good point there. Although I also would never drive tired. -
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