Steel Securement Info Page with Illustrations

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by SHC, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. AZS

    AZS Honk if anything falls off

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    Great stuff! Haven't done slinkies yet and always wondered how they're done when I see 'em rolling down the road.
     
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  3. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    the stand up coils out of wise alloy in AL. must be strapped. no chains allowed. the coil is almost thin as foil. on other coil loads, I throw 2 chains over the top with thick rubber belts under it, but some co's have wrote on my bills,(chains stains on coil) no damage, just am imprint, no groove or anything. I think it may have something to do with the pressure on the warm coils. according to the D.O.T. in AL. if you have 3/8 chain g70 & 1/2 binder, with a wll of 9200 lbs you can haul up to 52,000 lb coil, use 4 chains & be legal. a neighbor of mine got stopped by d.o.t. for insecure load. had 5 chains on coil & was legal, but cause the chain rating was wore off & could not be verified, he got a ticket

    he went to court, thinking no big deal, he will explain when he get's there. on court day, the judge asked do you know how serious this charge is? he said not sure? the judge said if found guily, 6 months in jail & a $1000.00 fine & told my friend to come back with a lawyer. cost him just over $1500 in court. lawyer fee's. since then. he changed from using 5- 3/8 chains with 5 3/8 binders with a 5400 wll to the same 3/8 chains only new with marking & upgraded the binders to a wll of 9200 lbs and uses only 4 chains & the 4 binders. I don't know how old the info is on this link. have to keep up, with ever changing laws.
     
  4. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    What trailer has a securement point rated for 9200#. They go off the weakest point of the combination. A 9200# binder is useless if hooked to a 7000# pipe spool, chain tie, J hook, stake pocket or D ring. The only trailer that may have anything close would be a RGN.

    As far as chains over a coil, I wouldn't. A friend and former employee ran a slitter for about 5 years. He said it was easy to see which coils were done this way because even with a belt you can see the indentation sometimes as far as 7 wraps. A place here as a learning experiment sat a coil on a concrete floor on a dime. You could still read the date on the dime on the 5th wrap.
     
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  5. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    the 3/8 chain g70 is 5400 wll, as jfaulf99 said , the 9200 pound binders do him no good . the securement is only rated at the weakest part, so a 5400 wll chain , secured with a 9200 pound binder is only good for 5400 pound wll
     
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  6. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    Why is it that people have such a hard time with something as simple as this?
     
  7. RTR

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    Thanks Heavy Haulers, I APPRECIATE THAT, as I am getting ready to lease on to CRST, start orientation with them on Feb 13th, and they told me I would be hauling alot out of Wise Alloy in Muscle Shoals. It is some good stuff to know about the stamp on the chains and binders.

    THANKS!!:biggrin_255:
     
  8. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    When the d.o.t. checks my securement they always check the binder & the chain rating. never in 12 years & dozens of checks have they ever checked any other than those 2. I hook to the rub rail, which is does not have a load limit posted on it. some that have D-rings may have it stamped on to the rings, but even when I had my built in tie downs, you could not find a load limit on it. if you have a flat with chains tied to the rub rail, my experience, is any officer, will look at the chain & binder only. I know the strongest point is only as good as it's weakest link, but, think about this. ever see a flat bedder have his straps or his chains go all the way thru his rubrail & hook to the lower center I beams? I have. now what is the load limit rating on those I beams being tugged from the side? in opposite directions? what about if you loop thru the rubrail & wrap chain around several stake pipe spools, do you increase the load limit? how would a D.O.T. calculate that? then the D.O.T. could look at the bolts holding down the D-ring, what is the load limit of the bolt's?or the weld? and on and on. so my opinion & Experience is the chains & binders have to have readable identifiers on them, that's all. now the amount of chains & their location is another topic. [​IMG]
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    Anything I can help with. most loads I pulled out of wise, were going to middle,northern OH. 3 or 4 stand up's 3 straps on each. I would have 1 strap across the middle, & the other 2 cross like an X .they have GA loads too, but I don't like GA. SO I did not go. but the 3-4 places in OH. were real easy to find places, with 24 hr parking. which is real nice. need any more info, shoot me a p.m.
     
  10. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    Im not going to pretend to be an expert on this stuff, as I haven't been a flat bedder for very long at all. But..

    Thats only showing using one strap per coil. I was taught two straps per coil, and another strap around the 4x4's at each end. I dont go over the top like the picture shows, but around the sides at 3 and 9 oclock. Locking each coil to the next, and still getting forward and rear pull on the straps.

    My way unitizes the load and locks them all together. I dont really see as how they have locked the load together at all in the link photo. But, if thats a legal way to do it, it certainly cuts strapping time down by more than half.
     
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  11. RTR

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    I could be wrong as I have not hauled out of wise alloy yet, but I believe they have aluminum coils and lay them flat as in this figure:

    http://www.rkcampf.com/coil-skidded.htm Figure 3

    Could be wrong, maybe heavyhaulerss will let us know:biggrin_25525:
     
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