Opinions on Mexican truck drivers being allowed in US?

If this is all true, then leave the current system as it was. Go to the staging area, they take theirs to Mexico, we take theirs in. the U.S. They stay in Mexico, we don't go.

 

In a perfect world the US could just shut down the borders and produce everything here. Guess what, its not. We do not have the natural resources that we used to. We need to have free trade for so we can get things like lumber and oil. Free trade may mean doing things that might hurt little but will be better for the whole. It is a global economy. That will not change. The days of working in a factory job for thirty years and retiring are over. No longer can someone coast through school counting on their dad or uncle getting them a good job at the mill. Our kids aren't just competing with other Americans for good jobs, they are competing with kids all over the world. There is plenty of jobs for intelligent, hard working Americans. I am not worried about my job. But if a horde of Mexicans comes and takes all the truck driving jobs I will do something else.

 

An organized & safety conscious government would already be in the position to close a border on demand. We can't. Why's that?

We have natural resources like lumber & oil. Plenty for us. We just have to stop exporting it to Japan & China. Where do you think all that prime timber from the NW goes? Where do you think all that oil from Alaska goes? Both end up in floating refineries & mills sitting off our coasts.

Did you know that a couple countries that we don't presently trade with have made deals on underwater oil drilling rights only 50 miles off our Florida Atlantic coast? Our own oil companies can't get drilling rights there yet some foreign national can? What's up with that?

Better for whom? What is it that we really need from Mexico?
I'm not against free trade at all.
I am against falling on my own knife to make it happen.

Why's that do you think? Could it be that our reveered industry leaders have off-shored too many jobs? Could it be that those same leaders sold us short on the stock exchange to look good for the almighty stock holders?

This part is true. We are competing with "kids" born into low wage, virtual sweat shop working conditions.

Did you know that during the year, there are consortiums ( a pleasant word for slave traders) conducted outside of this country wherein each country's representative(s) attempt to woo other country's labor leaders to buy their cheaper labor? It's a virtual auction of whoever will work for less $ per/hr. The result is measured in tens of cents per hour for these people.

Really? Where? Why is the IT industry so depressed that experienced IT veterans cannot find jobs even at beginners wages? Why is it that we are only a service based workforce anymore? We might still design some stuff but that's only to send it somewhere else to be built or the design purchased/copied.

Our best designers find work only in Mil-spec Prime contractors. The work is usually contract based & the job is gone sometimes well before the contract is up.

This country is chock full of head hunter agencies who usually screw their applicants one way or another. There's entirely too many qualified, educated techno people for the available jobs here.

Start practicing your next profession now, you're gonna' need it. By the way, what is it that you'll move on to? I ask because I want to avoid the horde of people like you from overfilling the ranks of that next profession.

 

Right On BobC!

As a past Value Engineer, it is not cheaper paying rip off logistics and oil costs to opposite side of earth for trash-quality goods. It is not cheaper paying lower wages to Aztecs who take siestas with their eyes open and have no concept of a hard days work and quality service.

It is all just an Industry scam to povertize the world, reduce future competition, and hold product developement to a standstill for marginal products, so they can make better profits with no equipment changes.

The trucking industry hope is gone. Jackels from all sides are already diving into the only profit center of the truck drivers now. The illegal aztec alien invasion from South and Central America was just the last straw. It will not take long for the whole industry to crash.

It happens every 70 years. Once the world is poverty levels, we will start back towards where we should be with normal technology development, and Industry (especially Oil Industry) will crash the world after the Republicans get back in power.

 

Hats off to you Christopher! :smt038

 

The World According To Christopher. LOL

 

I did not say you were "raceist", I was just pointing out the 20 words spelled wrong. One of them was "racist". Sorry, I was just amused that a cabinet maker spelled it "cabnet". I was also amused that the word "#####" with the silent "w" was spelled right. Oh, by the way the greatest state in the union is spelled "Wisconsin".

 

Yes, we export speciality lumber. We also import it as well. I just had a load of mahogany and spanish cedar from the docks in VA. Seventy% of our lumber comes from Canada though.

What do we need from Mexico? Corona.

There are still IT jobs. Last week my wife interviewed a lady who gave up her $39 an hour IT job at the local hospital because she was stressed out. In my wedding party there were seven guys. One other truck driver, three teachers, a doctor, a plumber, and a small business owner. All good jobs.
I have a fire science degree. So if I lose my trucking job I can get my paramedic license and be a firefighter. I was told if I got my medic I have a job. I wasn't too keen on the needles and blood and guts. I just wanted to fight fires, work a 100 days a year, and have a sweet pension when retired. But, due to city budget crunches there are very few departments like that. If I have to though I can get my paramedic. I probably should do it now. I could retire in twenty years instead of driving a truck for 35 or more.

The Mexican driver thing is a whole different issue than the illegal immigrant issue. They are not going to cross the border and leave the trucks. They will be driving for a similar reason I do. I wanted to live in northern WI. The median household income is $36,000. The cost of living is relatively low. Between my wife and I we make almost $100k. If I lived in a big city thats not much, but it is pretty good where we live. It will be the same thing for Mexican drivers. They will probably live like kings in Mexico for what they will be paid.

 

You are right in that it is more than illegal immigrants, but that is the near final Bush Depression phase that will also wipe out trucking livelihoods. The second Bush great depression started out with oil 300% inflation, excluding alternative energy sources already developed, exporting USA middle class manufacturing jobs to China (for more cost to consumers and rat quality goods), and finally sealing USA middleclass death with the invasion of illegal immigrants from South and Central America.

Again, it is not cheaper for consumers, and ultimately, the poor taxpayers will have to foot the bill for innefficiencies of politics and Industry holding back beneficial technologies (we should be in Star Trek technology era now with already developed products, which were banned by law/lobbyists from the market).

The Aztecs are pawns and diversions to distract USA from getting reamed. The Trucking and medical industries are all that's left. Trucking is near death, and medical, we really didn't need for the most part. Security jobs are still left at around $10/hr. Don't laugh, because that will be upper middle class very soon. And if you can honestly say you make $10/hr with $15/hr overtime, you are doing well now.

It will take 2 jobs to gross $37K/yr working very hard and diligent. The Aztecs are not evil, as they have been manipulated for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Industry is losing their profit and concentrated market survival, but they at too greedy and stupid to know otherwise like GW Bush (but he is NOW a billionaire, so...).

Roll with the punches and enjoy some very good trucking contributors on this site. Their knowledge extends far beyond one industry or single lifestyle. And in the end, knowledge will take you farther than short term dollars: since they can't take that back when you go bankrupt

 

Well Bucks,

All I'm reading from your post is a defeatist attitude.
As long as you're ok, thats's what counts.
The heck with everyone else.

Sorry Bucks, I just don't think that way.
At least not on things that effect so many people all at once.

I don't think you'll be too okay either.
Your next profession is not one of great money & career openings either.
It's a hard one to break into & there's room for just so many.

I wouldn't use your GF that quit the IT dept as any kind of indication there's work in the IT fields. Ask the 300,000 IT workers who have lost their jobs in Silicon Valley in the last couple years. Ask the thousands of veteran IT folks hovering over internet want ads just for a shot at entry level jobs that don't pay or are short term contract only.

All because our great industry leaders decided it was so much cheaper to off-shore the work or bring in H1B visa holders.

Which by the way, is absolutely coming home to roost. Much of the off-shoring is returning work that is screwed up & poor quality.

The other examples you mentioned are not something a 40+ yr old is going to go after except for the business owner position. But, that's a long shot there too.

I don't even feel like going on with this.

I can certainly tell that an era is gone now.
Used to be that truck drivers stuck together not just on the spot but in general as well.

I don't see or hear much of that anymore.
Now it's Hoooray for me but screw you.

I get it. I just don't much like it.