Prime Lease Relief

So Dennis does your wife Karen know your doing this stuff.

You remember saying this before you leased with Prime. How about back in 09 when you failed to even stay on at SNI in there bulk division. or also in 09 when when you were begging someone to sale you a truck and trailer on contract. then only a few days later spout off about all the fools leasing a truck and failing but being the great guy you are would buy out there contract to save them from going bankrupt. Or in Landstar post where in appears you failed there too. What happen to the killer job you got back in 09 driving that awsome 05 Mack that you could not figure out how to wire in an inverter. I have never worked at prime dont know anyone who has and personally would not lease a truck from a company i was depended on to dispatch me in order to make money. But from reading this thread guys are doing just that and making money. So they have my respect un like your trolling sorry butt. Sorry if I offended any of the prime drivers on here by jumping in here..

 

I doubt anyone is sending you "personal messages."

First, you sign a contract - Prime via Success Leasing agrees to lease a tractor to you to service the freight that they obtain. Since there is no financial agreement concerning transfer of real property, the only revenue stream for both the leasee and Prime is what is provided by movement of freight. You are operating under their authority - so it is illegal for one to broker their own freight.

Second, as an independent contractor you are fully capable of refusing loads. I have, and have suffered no adverse consequences. I've recently pulled loads that have been turned down by two or three other operators. The dispatch system we operate under puts an operator who refuses a load back to the bottom of the queue. This keeps the operator at the top from cherry picking the loads. Your assertion that one would "starve" if a load is refused is denied by the facts of the situation. The office staff that plans and assigns loads are financially benefitted by assuring that no one "starves."

Third, the fianancial agreement between the operator and Prime assumes certain expenses are borne by the operator, while others are the responsibility of Prime. Whether the provisions of the contract are favorable to the operator is part of the due dilligence that is implicit in the responsibilities of the individual entering into the contract to himself. As an adult in this society, either you read and understand the contract as it applies to yourself, or you are a fool. The risk you take in any business is mitigated by the possibility of financial reward - and since risk is invoved there is also the expectation of failure. No risk? Be a wage-slave employee.

Fourth, Prime also assumes risk - the risk that the contractor that they have chosen will not be able to perform his tasks adequately. There are financial penalties that Prime inherits as well based on the freight contracts they enter into with their shippers. As an independent contractor certain elements of the operation are under your complete control, and that is the inherent financial advantage that the contractor has over a Prime employee-driver moving the same freight. If you as an independent contractor can move that freight more efficiently than an employee who has no interest except driving as many miles as one can as fast as one can - the the financial advantage you accrue over the employee-driver is what pays the bills. Frankly, I make more than I did on the company side, and there are other advantages I enjoy as well.

Fifth, with over 5000 drivers there is bound to be quite a bit of turn-over for many reasons. It is the interest of Prime to provide a stream of new employees and contractors to replace the ones that leave. When I leased on, there were about 8 of us in the lease group. There was a large number of student driver applicants - I didn't bother to count - but you must remember that well over 50% (my estimate) will not make it through the initial instructional phase to the on-the-job training portion of their new career. A large number of those people will be eliminated as well. So yes, there are large numbers of driver candidates brought into orientation, but there are also many eliminated for various reasons. The fact that Prime does bring in many people to orientation is not necessarily a sign of vast numbers of drivers leaving the company as it is a sign of the numbers of candidates eliminated for cause.

Was that you last Sunday acting like an idiot concering a lease? LOL - Rutherford disposed of you rather quickly. KR is many things, and his experience in the LTL world is quite extensive. He's never pulled a reefer, doesn't do heavy loads, and his recent trucking experience is limited to flat roads in warm weather. While his personal preferences biases him against lease contracts, that doesn't necessarily mean that his preference for buying a junker, investing thousands of dollars making it road-worthy is the correct solution for everyone. I can point out a number of respondents on this forum who have taken that advice and failed miserably. KR is also not just doing this for his heath and the altruistic benefit he might occur. In case you haven't noticed he has a financial stake in promoting certain products, and pushing his own form of for-profit business seminars, advice on DVD, etc. It's in his financial interest to promote what he does, and to suggest that other business relationships are of less benefit.

Since you are so concerned with the Missouri Attorney Generals office, and your negativity toward lease contracts in general leads me to assume that you are a FAILED lease operator, yes? I would submit that means you don't have a clue about how to make it work. Why should anyone listen to you, let alone send you "personal messages" if they desire to be successful in this sort of endeavor? The only thing that you provide is negativity, and advice that leads to failure.

Here's a "personal message" for you... don't hold your breath waiting for that PM. Its bad for your health.

 

I wonder why we keep reading and answering this guy's babble. Clearly, he had a bad experience with a lease--many do. I would let his rant die of malnutrition or he can go find some willing readers somewhere else. I'm done with this "20 year" trucker. Block.

 

It shows this guy is a random troll. If he read anything here, he would see that everyone here, has positive post. Even the people who have left, posted that it was their individual experience, and have defended Prime.

It really gets old listening to T/S dwellers complain about not making money and how it is veryone elses fault. Maybe he can hang out at a T/S counter and round up a group of haters there. LOL

 

No wonder you didn't make it. The rest of us get 72-28.

 

I believe this 100%. My trainer who I keep in contact with called last week to borrow money. He runs his truck at 54 and we were never late in 2 months. Prime leasing is a scam the end. I can't complain about the company side ...........

 

You post this with so many facts, I am headed back to turn in my truck. Oh MY GOD! ! ! MORON. Just because your trainer was not making it doing 54, does not mean that he was doing everything right. If he had to borrow money, I would bet that he has spent more than he was making, or made some bad decisions that led to his lack of funds. Come on, be honest, and just repost that this was a bad idea to make this statement with so few facts or observations that you look like a complete idiot.

 

MORON ???????

 

The same trainer you bad mouthed about here on TTR In half a dozen posts.

You suddenly have a higher opinion of him.