CARB DPF Retrofit

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  1. Feb 23, 2012 #1
    Klleetrucking

    Klleetrucking Medium Load Member

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    Well, 2014 is fast approaching and the DPF will be mandatory in Ca.

    Has anyone or know anyone that has done a retrofit on a pre '07 truck?

    Is anyone even considering a retrofit?

    I've contacted Ironman Parts, (www.ironmanparts.com) with some general
    questions and got some general info. They said they've done them and no problems, but, I'd like to hear from someone that has actually done it for some real world info.
    BTW, I've read that LB/LA ports stand to lose 40% of their container traffic come 2013 (Panama Canal expansion for bigger ships) so is it even worth doing a retrofit with the loss of this much freight? I realize reefers will always be needed for the produce but I do stepdeck stuff and a lot of freight is a container or came out of a container. Such a quandry.

    With all due respect, replies of "screw ca., I won't go there" just clog up the thread.
     
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  3. Feb 23, 2012 #2
    PackRatTDI

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    IMO, with the prices I've heard quoted for a retrofit, you might as well just trade in for a newer model truck.
     
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  4. Feb 23, 2012 #3
    TheRoadWarrior

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    Thats exactly what i did..both the truck and trailer...
     
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  5. Feb 23, 2012 #4
    Klleetrucking

    Klleetrucking Medium Load Member

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    $11k to $15k in round figures.
    I'm considering a new truck but I'm 60 and therein lies the quandry, do I have enough time to order and pay for a new truck? Will it be worth it? What's the dependabilty issue on a new truck? I could cut out Ca. and still be OK but crazy as it sounds I enjoy coming out to Ca. Another thing to consider is when everyone stops coming to Ca., the competition for freight in the other 47 states increases by that many trucks. Also, is one missing a competitive edge by not having a compliant truck?
    Sooo many questions. Thanks for the replies.
     
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  7. Feb 23, 2012 #5
    DrtyDiesel

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    I used think this, screw going there if i have to put a DPF on an older truck. While I still believe it I think I would consider buying a new truck IF they can get all the problems worked out of having the DPF's and other emissions stuff on the engines. I'm all for clean air, but not at the sacrifice of money for break downs and lower fuel economy.
     
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  8. Feb 23, 2012 #6
    TheRoadWarrior

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    Heck im almost 60 and i traded mine in... my money comes outta california and arizona so i really had no choice as much as i go there...i figured it was easier to just buy a new truck and trailer then go thru the hassel of retro fitting the older stuff... hope it was a good move..lol
     
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  9. Feb 24, 2012 #7
    ShortBusKid

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    I'm sure there will be plenty of disagreement but there is no way I'd do a DPF filter retro. It cost a fortune and is going to kill your fuel mileage if the performance of the 2008 I bought is any indication. You're going to pay for it anyway so why not buy a new truck with warranty and SCR/DEF that will get 7mpg.
     
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  10. Feb 24, 2012 #8
    leftlanetruckin

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    I thought about it and decided not for me.
    Pulling RGN, I can go 6-9 months and not get a load out there, so no need IMHO.
    I guess after this year, I wont be heading that way in my "old" 2006 model year rig.
    I would certainly be very hesitant about a retrofit though, and talking to a guy that fits it, thus makes money from it, is not a good indicator. So good idea asking around and NOT taking the word of the guy with his hand out for your cash!
    Look at it this way, if your truck is paid for as mine is, which is cheaper? Not pulling loads into and out of Cali, or buying that new truck for God knows how much. I know where I would make the most money myself.....

    Martin
     
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  11. Feb 24, 2012 #9
    Jfaulk99

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    Assuming cost isn't a factor, are the conversion trucks more/less reliable than a newer factory DPF motor?
     
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  12. Feb 24, 2012 #10
    leftlanetruckin

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    I dont think there would be reliability issues with a retrofit myself. Just the normal DPF getting clogged up etc. that seems to be commonplace, especially on the Cat motors. I know we have at least 2 company trucks right now in the Cat shop with DPF issues, and it seems to be a regular deal for them.

    Martin
     
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