Hours of service?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by imouthousejr, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. imouthousejr

    imouthousejr Bobtail Member

    Question? In any given trucking company, is the person who's responsible for monitoring HOS logs required to be certified in log interpretation.
     
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  3. Yatista

    Yatista Medium Load Member

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    Certified by whom, a college, FMCSA, or 10+ years driving experience?
     
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  4. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    NO.

    I have attended (2) courses from NATMI [North American Transportation Management Institute] run thru Indiana University of Pennsylvania that could have lead to a 'certification' [CSP Certified Safety Professional and CDS Certified Director of Safety] they are not certifications for HOS and log monitoring.

    I let the time lapse b/4 I could finish and would have to take the courses again if I wanted the fancy initials behind my name... All they do is certify one is a safety professional and could be an 'expert witness' in court cases, etc.

    However I do have over 30 years of recapping and monitoring logs and I still have to stop and think because of all the changes in the past few years.
     
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  5. imouthousejr

    imouthousejr Bobtail Member

    The reason why I ask, never in my 23 yrs of trucking of various types have I used or electronic logs. When I moved to NY took a job driving trucks. This is the career I've chosen. never used qualcom or navgo, the company I'm driving for uses the macloud dispatch system that is interactive. I still keep paper logs eventhough I'm on electronic HOS. The problem I'm running to is that the electronic logs are reporting false information. For example on 02/08/12 I drove 4 1/2 hrs was on duty 7 1/2 hrs the electronic logs says driving 15 1/2 hrs and on duty 18 1/2 hrs this is obviously a mistake, why then would the HOS MGR. Have me sign a violation report to put in my HR file its obvious to me a electronic error. Shouldn't the HOS/SAFETY/MONITORING /MGR BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND DISCARD IT AS SUCH WITHOUT HAVING TO TAG MY FILES?
     
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  6. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Both your numbers are 11 hours difference.
    Did you forget to put the electronic log into off duty or sleeper?

    It isn't completely automatic. The driver still needs to insert certain data, and what about an "edit" tool? Most systems (except BETA) have the "edit" function for all lines except Line 3, Driving...this can't be edited.
     
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  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    my company gives me violations every month.

    incomplete log grids. over on my hos. speeding. you name it.

    my logs are done by computer. but i know they are also using a computer program to check my logs. and there computer program SUCKS.

    i won't sign there supposed violations.
     
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  8. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    I used to work for a company that did the same... Some safety goofball would run out to the main office(the few times I was there) and hand me a bunch of them violations... LOL! I'd quickly page through them about 2 or 3 seconds... then throw them right in the trash in front of safety and state, "I've got some loads to pull"... and walk out the door. Boss never said a thing about it... only laughed.
     
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  9. Everett

    Everett Crusty Shorts, What???

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    boy i be in deep do then with e - logs then, becuse im still on paper and i'm very old school, and most these problems , i'm reading about is not the driver fault, rather more on dispacther side, :biggrin_2556:
     
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  10. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    We were running paper logs too, but they scanned them into a computer to check for violations. The computer would then print out the supposed violation... then, we would throw them in the trash can... or file #13. LOL!
     
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  11. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I've never seen a law or regulation that says someone need to be certified to read any logs. I know years ago when we ran "Clock Charts" the companies would send the chart out to a certified company to have them read if there was a problem.

    HOWEVER, FMCSR §395.13 (i) (1) Says there must be a certificate from the manufacturer certifying that the design of the OBR has been tested to meet the requirement in the §395.13 section. It also goes on to say the device will be maintained and re-calibrated in accordance with the manufacturer's specifications. So if you feel there's a problem you need to go to the company and let them know and get it fixed. That's when you might want to slip them a copy of the regs.
     
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