Stay away from cr england!!!!

Isn't the payoff part of your lease agreement?

 

Um, don't think so. The lease agreement is only for leasing the truck. It has nothing to do with buying it at the end if that's what your wishes are.

 

I truly don't care if the truck makes a million dollars and the driver only keeps X amount of dollars...
I truly don't care if a driver pays X amount of dollars for a truck to use it..and then pays X amount of dollars to purchase it...
I truly don't care if you succeed or fail with CRE lease program...

What I do care about (or at least bothers me) is the way CRE promotes the lease program..CRE preys on desperate people and their hope of providing a better life for themselves and loved ones. It's presented as a way to make a better than average wage doing the same job as the company driver.

I also agree that all the little expense accounts are disclosed at the time of signing. It's presented in a way that a nickel here, seven cents there, $50 a week etc doesn't add up to much in the scheme of things. The new driver has been barely surviving and SUDDENLY here is the light at the end of the tunnel...I'm going to get $1.20 a mile, 3,000 miles a week...YIPPEE, where do I sign...

Then you're in your shiny new truck...You're rolling around the yard, all eyes are on you! All the newbies practicing on the pad are looking at YOU...They want to be you in that shiny new truck...In control of your own destiny..and YOU feel good!

You're finally released and receive your dispatch...hooked to your trailer and rolling down the road...fuel tanks full and making money! All week long, each time you climb in the bunk you have nothing but visions of sugar plums dancing in your head..Life is good!

IT'S PAYROLL FRIDAY!! What the hell? Where's my money? I grossed $3,500 and my paycheck is $300? That can't be right..Must be an honest mistake..call payroll, yep it's right...this much went to this account, this much to this, this much to this, etc etc.

Well hell, I'm just going to have to work harder and harder and harder...Then you want to go home..This is your death sentence...Now you're behind and most likely will never be in the black again...CRE doesn't care, they have all your nickels and dimes being held in special accounts for you...until you quit, then all those nickels and dimes become theirs. Then they attempt to collect money from you for repairs to the truck that you know weren't necessary.

How do I know all this? I fell for the false promise. Along with several people I went through orientation with, and ALL these other people on TTR supposedly reporting false experiences with CRE.

CRE isn't in the trucking business...They are in the business of providing false hope and false promises to people with big dreams...

To be honest...It doesn't bother me CRE does this to people...Everyone has the same opportunity to do their research, listen to others experiences, be given the facts and a choice to make their own decision...Lease or don't lease.

I don't care.

 

You sure went into great depth about something "you don't care about" which you made perfectly clear several times.

And how is that? So they make it out to sound better than it actually is. Use your own judgement and common sense and don't let your mind be made up by them. If it sounds to good to be true, nine times out of ten, it probly is. But if You go into it believing you're gonna bring home half of that three grand you grossed, while being a newbie, that's your own fault for believing into it.

Come on man, are You listening to yourself? CRE does not prey on desperate people. They simply present you with an option and its up to you to make the decision take it or leave it.

People really need to start thinking for themselves.

If done properly, you can. If you are just starting out, there is an extreme potential to make more in a lease truck than in a company truck. You just have to work harder because if you slack, its easier to go in the hole.

First off, if somebody is dumb enough to not know how to read the mileage pay scale and realize that for the most part you will only be getting paid 90 a mile, since 90 percent of your loads will be over 700 miles in length, you deserve to allow yourself that false hope.

It's not hard to figure out on your own how much of that gross income that you will get to keep.

And no, I'm not talking about finding out about it after the fact on your settlement.

Yep, and I'm sure you drug this out for a long time, didn't you? If it wasn't working for you, why didn't you get out of it a long time ago? It cracks me up to hear that some of theses people put up with stuff like this for months on end.

But then again, what difference does it make, right? This is all stuff that happened in the past so it does no good to talk about it now.

I beg to differ. If You didn't care, you wouldn't have made such an elaborate post.

I'm sorry this happened to you but people really need to be responsible for their own actions, end of story.

 

When I bought my truck with England it had 425,000 miles on it. I just hit the 700,000 mark a week ago and should have no problem getting it to a million.

The tax write offs when leasing a truck are pretty good. My first year with England my net income was $37,000. I sent in zero tax payments and still got back $4200 on my tax refund. My wife and I payed off her four wheeler with that money.

 

That information should be provided as part of the lease. The buy out is part of determining the value of a lease.

Your only chance is if you train. Solo for solo a company driver will make more. Even trainning, the company driver can still come out ahead

There's the rub .. a company driver will never go in the hole.


This isn't company vs lease in general, just at CRE. CRE's lease compensation is comptetives. A little low, but still in the range of similiar programs. Where CRE kills you is on the expense side. Insurance, the penny for IFTA and variable milage.

 

And what exactly is a driver to do when CRE makes it clear that if you terminate your lease early, they are going to do whatever they can to screw you. Report falsely on your DAC report, charge you for damage that didn't exist, charge you for fuel while someone else drives the truck. Once you've signed on the line you can't afford to quit. Not just for monetary reasons, but because if you do they will do their utmost to ensure you don't work for a reputable carrier again.

I agree ultimately it is each drivers responsibility to make informed decisions, but that can be next to impossible when the information your being given is false.

 

That's strange, the only thing they told us that would happen if we terminated the lease prematurely was that for one, we wouldn't ever be considered to go back as company drivers and two, we would receive a negative mark on our credit rating for a lease incomplete.

But, I conversed with someone on another thread that informed that he turned his truck in early and CRE told him he was welcome to come back any time. He said they didn't drain his maintenance fund on bogus repairs, either.

I dunno, maybe he had a good enough reason that CRE thought was reasonable to end it early.

But still, there's no reason for for CRE to be upset about a truck being turned in early. If somebody turns one in, they will just lease it out to the next person in line who wants it.
Don't think you are inconveniencing them by doing so.

Well, I don't know where you got your information from, hopefully not a recruiter but so far, every answer to our questions that we asked before agreeing to do this has been right.

 

Is there anyone here who has done the training with them and NOT done the lease program that is happy with the company? my girlfriend and i are having problems getting the funds together for any of the other schools. $12,000 is a lot of money.

 

I see the CRE sock puppet is still around with his point for point rebuttals ...

But I guess when you're really sitting at a company desk - and not driving a truck for a living - "elaborate posts" (all day every day) are easy to make ...