is a pretrip inspection required ...

13 days is for logs only. There is no set time for inspection reports.

 

After reading all these posts, I see many confusing company requirements with federal requirements. LostNfound has a good post.

To make it short, federal requirements:

1) You are required is to make sure your truck is in satisfactory shape before operating. Whether it's pretrip or post trip is redundant.

2) You are required to complete the inspection report at the end of the day.

3) Logging: All that is required is the city, town, place of change of duty status. What you were doing is not required.

Here are the regulations some need to read (too long to post), but you still do what your company wants.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.aspx?section_type=A

396.11 Driver Vehicle Inspection Reports
396.13 Driver Inspection
395.8 Driver Record of Duty Status
395.15 and 395.16 EOBR requirements
392.7 Equipment Inspection and Use

A few random questions:

 

Course at the end of the day, or week, how would you add up all those little oddball time segments?

 

Hopefully I did not miss this in the above posts.
If I roll into the yard with 14 hours worked on my log, a 15 minute post trip inspection would put me over the max 14 hours rule. Is this ok since the last 15 minutes were not driving?

 

no. the 14 hrs is for on duty hrs total, including driving and on duty not driving.

 

FMCSA 395.3:

(a) No motor carrier shall permit or require any driver used by it to drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, nor shall any such driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle1) More than 11 cumulative hours following 10 consecutive hours off-duty;(2) For any period after the end of the 14th hour after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty, except when a property-carrying driver complies with the provisions of §395.1(o) or §395.1(e)(2).

You notice the wording "to drive"? A post trip is not driving, and you may not be in violation of the HOS, even if you are past the 14th hour since coming on duty.

 

Yes you can go past your 14 as long as its not driving.

 

This is correct,you only have to flag the pretrip,and show actual time on your posttrip.And yes you can show time after your 14 on duty as long as your not on line three.This just prolongs the start of your ten hr break.Now different companies use different rules.But as far as DOT is concerned this is all that is required.

 

>>>>is a pretrip inspection required ...

Only if you care about your job and your life, otherwise, nope...

 

Lol,very well said.Have found numerous things wrong that I missed or appeared the next day after a post trip.Some times you miss things at night.Every time I get out of my truck Im looking for things wrong.