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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jackjohnson, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. jackjohnson

    jackjohnson Bobtail Member

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    hello guys im fresh out of the lot in my own truck. I just bought a used volvo 780 and im trying to get going on my owned and operated company. I have been working as a contract driver where i am given loads from point a to point b and have been getting a percentage of the profits.


    The real question is how do yall do it... is there a formula as far as rates to know what to ask for so your not being screwed...

    if anyone can help id really appreciate any advice and guidance

    links info etc...

    thanks in advance :biggrin_255:
     
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  3. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    So are you saying you bought/leased a truck without a business plan and/or knowing what your costs and financial needs would be?
    If so, unless you get with the program REAL quickly, your days are numbered.
     
  4. jackjohnson

    jackjohnson Bobtail Member

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    i have general knowledge and have a business plan . I was more or less looking for advice on formulas for freight hauls. 48flat reefer van hs etc
     
  5. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    Your formula is different from mine which is different from everyone else

    Here's the concept ( these are hyped #'s )

    Truck note =300 a week
    Plate = 50 a week
    Insurance 100
    Maint = 100
    Taxes etc 2290/fuel = 25

    Let's just say your at 575.00 a week fixed

    You avg 2500 a week in miles

    575/2500 = 0.23 ( 23 cpm ) fixed

    Now fuel

    If you avg 6.0 mpg

    2500/6.0 = 416 gallons of fuel
    416x4.15 ( nat avg) = 1726.00

    1726/2500 = 69.0 ( 69 cpm )

    Now do you idle ?
    That can cost you 40.00 a day for just your brake or an additional 240.00 to 280.00 a week in addional fuel costs

    280/2500= 0.11 ( let's call it 1.5 CPM )

    Total costs
    69+23+1.5 = 93.5 cpm is your

    ROUGH BREAK EVEN ...

    Then you determine what you need to make as far as profit ... Then you figure your rate you need ...

    Remember these are FAKE #s

    Yours could be higher or lower ...

    Hope this helps
     
  6. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    You forgot driver pay, unless you're only buying yourself a job. Once you add in a decent driver wage, break even quickly gets to 1.35 or higher depending on trailers, etc. $100 a week is a pipe dream for maintenance on a used truck. Once you get the numbers on what it would cost to hire a driver to do the job, then you see profit, unless ya'll would work for free as a company driver somewhere.
     
  7. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I can't see it happening for less than $1.62 cpm.
     
  8. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    I didn't forget driver pay ... I said anything above the fixed number is your profit ... You determine your own wage

    It's not a fixed cost to run the truck ...
     
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  9. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    No way .. My fixed costs are 0.72 cpm

    My factor was FIXED COSTS guys not your wage

    Fixed cost = cost to run the truck MINUS your WAGE

    So if the truck cost you .. 93 cpm and you want a wage of
    50 cpm or 60 cpm then

    Your cost would be 1.43 - 1.53

    It's not hard ..
     
  10. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    why should I not get paid to eat if I have to sit?

    Driver pay is still a fixed cost. Even if you pay at .XXX per mile. it's still a fixed cost.

    And don't forget health/life/disability insurance rates for yourself.

    In all honesty,

    As you are figuring it, those numbers become "variable" costs. Not fixed.

    A fixed cost is the cost of the office, insurance, internet, phone etc. Those costs that will never "change". They become your "overhead". That overhead has to be covered monthly. You can figure it per hour, day, month or week. What ever your heart contends.

    The variable costs are those that accrue as you operate the equipment. Depreciation, maintenance, repair, life cycle replacement etc.
     
  11. US MARINE

    US MARINE Heavy Load Member

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    Can you really not read .. Or did you just look at the numbers

    The numbers are FAKE ... Just numbers

    Plug your own in ... Geez

    That's what u get when you try to teach some one how to formulate their cost ...

    FAKE numbers my example is FAKE that means not real I just used easy round numbers ...

    If you wanna hold out 500 a week for maint that's cool
    It's just a formula
     
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