Going downhill...

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by defencerulez, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. CenutryClass

    CenutryClass Road Train Member

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    stab braking. When youre at the speed limit, or 5mph below, brake and watch your speed drop another 5 or so mph. When you get back up to the speed limit, brke again till your speed drops. rinse and repeat as necessary.

    If you have quiet engine brakes, run it on low and go down a gear.
     
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  3. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    +1 if you have a quiet jake use it

    speed limits are for cars, there is one hill up on the VT boarder thats about 16% and 3 miles, speed limit is 45, i put the 4 ways on and take it in 4th gear (~20 mph), being non residential zone and at a permited weight I do use my jake, I try and stay off my jake as much as possible, but hills with 104,000 I use every mean necessary to get to the bottom safe

    I would slow way below the speed limit and let the cop pull over the guy passing you over the double yellow or in the brake down lane because you are going to slow
     
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  4. walstib

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    Descend slower than you think is safe...Trying to slow once descending is where the problems occur, IMO...What's the rush?
     
  5. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    "you can take a hill to slow a million times, your only going to take it to fast once"
     
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  7. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    well since my engine brakes are extremely quiet, I would have them on and smile at the cop as a rolled by after stopping.

    oh and revving the engine to 2500, on most newer engines, that's enough to destroy them. My redline is 2100, at 2400 it sets an overspeed/overrev code that triggers a electronic fault that must be dealer cleared, anything over 2450 it derates the engine to prevent damage
     
  8. defencerulez

    defencerulez Light Load Member

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    Let me better explain the situation: (I am from Canada and will use metric sry)

    It is bad to step on brake on a downhill cuz you can lose friction...

    Have said that, initially, when I first tackle this hill, at the top of the hill, my speed was around 25kph (about 15mph), if I use 6th gear, my rpm will go from about 1200rpm, and at the bottom of the hill I will be at 50 kph (about 30mph) going 2500 rpm... Tried once never wanna do it again

    But I am still wondering, since I have never stepped on the brake, wouldn't it be better???

    If I stab brake, I might lose triction and will be sliding instead of rolling, assume there is ice on the road...

    So right now, I am going in with about 15mph... Once I reach about 20 mph I will hold onto the brake and keep my speed about 20 to 25 mph...

    Not sure I an doing it right, I usually drive on highway, but this little hill in northern Ontario is certainly a #####... There is no other way around it...

    I have been driving on snow all my life, been driving professionally for 8 years. But this is my 2nd winter driving tractor trailers... I just wanna find the best way to tackle this hill and learn something from the seasoned veterans!
     
  9. defencerulez

    defencerulez Light Load Member

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    This pickup/delivery has been handled by some super experienced guys, but he got sick and recently I have been doing it...

    It is in the "snow belt" you can see the Lake from the North and this location and it can be heavily hit by snow squall...

    I am thinking the worst, like a sheet of ice after freezing rain, traffic backed up on the traffic light down the bottom of the hill that kind of stuff...

    Just want a little discussion on the best way to deal with this... In 2 winters of my trucking career, this is the worst possible situation if weather is bad! 2 weeks ago I have done this with the hill was partially snow covered... Made it used gear and brake. But the key question here is: what should be my key to slow down on ice? Gear or brake?
     
  10. Numb

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    if road is a sheet ice? for me that is a "Stop the truck" moment.Ive driven all over US and Canada ,still haven't found the ice skates that fit.:biggrin_25523: chains work ,but are dangerous and not for driving at speed. I only use to find a safe place to get off and wait for "salt shakers to come by.
    Oh and the jake brakes on slippery roads? good way to jack knife !!!!!!!! your braking at the front of the articulation point with the weight pushing on it.
     
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  11. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Like numb says,park it till the salt shakers come.There is no traction on solid ice no matter how much you brk while going down that hill.What will probably happen is you'll hit the cars in front of you.Your best bet is call the police and see if they think it's safe enough for trks.
     
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