CSA 2010 why it needs ending

If you pass an inspectiln,they ought to give credit or note it..its all stick with those fasists

 

Well I said I was going to stop posting here but as bad as I hate to admit it and it pains me to no end to say this, Tazz is right about the 30 point cap rev. The Severity Weight in column A is capped at 30 points, the 57 points and 48 points that you have have posted are after they are x3.
If you would look at the bottom of the page it states;

In the MC 675001 inspection that has 57 points, its really 19 points times 3 to make it 57, after a year has passed it becomes 38 points then the year after that it will be 19 points.
Other than that CSA is a ###### up program that needs to be scraped.

 

When inspectors on an assembly line pull an item for inspection, they do not wait until a tech has an opportunity to look it over and fix any defects. No, they pull one off the line and look it over FIRST. Then the techs can fix anything they want to fix.

Same way here.

If I pull you out for an inspection and a light doesn't work, it doesn't work. Whether it did when you last inspected it or not, it is not wrong or unfair to put it on an inspection report. That is just reporting the facts.

Now, whether you should be assessed points, or not, that is another issue.

Well, I am certainly trying to "do my job for real".

As far as assigning points against you and harming you financially, I look at it this way.

If you are a conscientous driver who REALLY looks at his rig when he does inspections and tries to keep it up in good shape, you might have a minor light out (act of God) that just happened, very few violations or points, if any will happen to you. Serious stuff, like 6 of 10 brakes out of whack, or brake linings falling off brake shoes, doesn't happen that fast.

If you are a cowboy who aint fixin it till its broke good, then when I inspect it and put it out of service 4 ways and have 10 or 15 violations on a report, you need all the points CSA can assign. Those kind of violations are not "acts of God" and do not just happen since the last PTI. They accumulate because they are ignored over a period of time.

My concern is not the points or what happens to that driver or carrier in the future. My concern is that those serious violations get fixed before the truck goes back on the road.

 

The problem is not how you do your job, which from what I've seen you do just fine. The problem is the system is so flawed that we can very easily be screwed over with no legal recourse. Even if it gets dragged through the courts and deemed just barely technically legal, it goes against the very spirit of this nation and we will never accept it.

I mean, try to imagine if we had the same power. Some driver comes in, you do your job, he submits a report that you did something wrong. You contest that report and it's sent back to that same driver for review. He, of course, claims that he was right and you were wrong. Well, case closed and points are assigned to your record. Oh, I take that back. Points are assigned the moment he turns in that report. Get enough points and you're fired. Now really, is that fair?

 

the problem isn't scalemaster doing his job. the problem is state troopers doing scalemasters job. and they've gotten way pushy since the program.

i got pulled over for speeding. but i wasn't. so instead of a ticket. i got a level 3 for clearance lights that all worked and speeding.

the first time i got a level 3 was for clearance lights and improper mud flaps. just becuase they were flapping in the wind.

the problem isn't the scale house. the problem is the vigilante cops.

what reasoning do the cops have to harass us? they don't collect any money for playing vigilante. they just make us look bad to the point we're forced to close our doors.

we have scale houses doing there jobs. we don't NEED CSA AND VIGILANTE COPS.
AND WE MOST CERTAILY DON'T NEED 10 DIFFERENT VIOLATIONS OVER ONE TAIL LIGHT.

it's not you that we're angry with scale master. it's the governemt, there B.S. regulations and the power hungry cops. since when does one burned out clearance light make a vehicle UNSAFE. regs used to state mudflaps had to cover only HALF the tire. at least to the hub. but the cops want them things 4 inches to the ground. and hanging STIFF.

 

lights blowing out is becoming less of a problem slowly. more and more people are going to the LEDs so that will be one that iwll eventually fade away into thedarkness.

 

Quaint colors do not reinforce your flawed argument.


It is capped read the report.



When a broker looks at your score it is a comparison of you to other carriers your size. They do not see your score they see how you compare to others. So yeah if you consistently prove to be in violation more than your peers people can choose to not do business with you.






Now given your attitude on here of "F them I'm gonna make it a huge pain just for daring to stop me!" I can well imagine your gonna be higher because I suspect your purposely creating situations to cause trouble. For instance leaving pillows and blankets in the passenger seat of a vehicle with no sleeper. Changing manufacturer plates. Creating situations just so you can climb upon your cross. Well do like Peter and hang yourself upside down will you I fear your suffering from lack of blood flow to the brain.


If you spent half the amount of effort doing your job and working with people instead of against them the people that need removed from public roads might be removed in a timely fashion. Of course as I read more and more I am gettiing the impression the system is working just fine.

 

So you don't have anything to do with the data gathering process, it matter not to you. So the simple, I don't know nor do I care what happens with a warning in an inspection is your mindset. Well noted, and typical.

So, if there is a disagreement about the validity of an inspection that may contain a warning, you are the judge and/or arbiter in the validity of the information? Yeah, we get it. Judge = LEO. And you do not see a probelm with this?

Everything, if the inspection also has a warning on it. There is no due process to contest the warning. A warning that has damaging effects to both company and driver. In essence, a warning HAS become a citation with no legal means to contest it. Other than, you being the judge and arbiter of the contest. Biased to say the least.

So, what your saying is that the number crunchers assign the blame and intent in their CSA score. So, your somehow off the hook... Out of your hands kind of deal. Yup! We get it, and it is pivital to our complaint.

And how would we know if you do falsify inspections with warnings? We could DataQ them and they come back to you and ask YOU if you falsified them? Really? and I mean Really? You cannot honestly think that this is even remotely fair and impartial.

One of the points that the Rev. was making was that a wheel lug could fall off enroute and not be caught until a following driver inspection. It happens(an act of God) and would be costly to the company and driver in points.