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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Morlen, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Morlen

    Morlen Bobtail Member

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    forgive me if i make ur eyes bleed, ima driver, not a typist and i dont want to expend the excessive brain power to hit the shift key and use proper grammar, im tired lol

    i drive for a company(local) where my job security is the least of my worries, make great pay/benes

    anyways
    i am different from most drivers that ive come across. alot of the drivers ive met consider us drivers and state troopers like the cat chasin the mouse. others have reffered to this as "playing the game".
    never liked that prospect, i grew up with 3 sisters, i dont play games

    here is my problem
    i follow the law to the letter
    and my dispatchers hate me LOL because i have to tell them to reload the trailer with 4 broken crossmembers, or it needs brake pads, or the leaf springs are shot and the tire clearance is 1.5 inches, etc
    i catch alot of heat from them(slip-seating, they give me the CRAPOLAWTF trucks) because im not "the other driver that said it was fine"
    ive been told my standards are far higher then DOT FMCR laws, i dont think so
    when the brake pads are 1/4 the thickness of my pinky finger? come on guys....
    and the kicker is....one of the dispatchers used to be a driver(14 some years)

    so...up stairs management LOVES me,and really respects me for the job i do. everyone else, including other drivers, dont like me too much. most talk alot of smack and its wearin me thin. i know, i know. that lesson from grade school, but what really gets me is

    are my standards higher than DOT because i make them change a tire at 2/32 tread? i understand thats the minimum, but whos to say if i get lvl 1'd it might be under at "some" part of the tire.( law states under 2/32 in any major tread grove at the lowest part of the tire deems OOS)
    ive told em im not gonna drive it till it gets fixed and they evenutally fold, but not without contempt

    law is black and white
    my world is black and white
    i dont deal well with areas of grey
    90% of the drivers i work for pre-trip like this
    put key in, turn key, move truck forward IT WORKS!!

    lol, then the sign off that everything is good.....and i get a loaded trailer...thats not

    ive been told things like "o thats trivial" and i stand my ground and im the bad guy
    dont get me wrong, this is a good company and i know im not painting a pretty picture lol, but this has happend to me close to 40% of the runs ive done in the 5 years ive worked for em

    so am i trippin? am i "over" following the law? not asking to lax DOT or my standard but

    how should i handle this? it driving me up the wall and its getting old

    thanks for your time
     
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  3. RAGE 18

    RAGE 18 Road Train Member

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    sounds like a work for a company that dont care 2 much about fleet maintnance it would be interesting to know their FMCSA scores. I mean if your constantly having to put up with safety issues and having your co workers point you out bcause of it that aint good. Good luck driver maybe its time to find a new home.
     
  4. Treefork

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    You say it's a good company, yet the drivers and dispatchers dislike you for holding them to a safety standard... Doesn't sound like a good company to me.
     
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  5. Morlen

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    it is a good company, but the management has sucked.
    corporate has replaced the management 3 times in the 5 years ive been there

    its not just this company ive had this problem at
    my philosophy is this
    its my license, its my ticket, its my life
    DOT isnt my enemy, they're my friend
    i dont want to run an unsafe truck, and if i miss something on my pretrip i beg them to find something

    god forbid i kill someone and survive with that on my heart, that and im trying to pay this house off and have a stable home for my family
    im not calling these other drivers/dispatchers bad people, just having a problem with the level of immature attitude i have to deal with

    i think my problem would be fixed if i had my own truck, but thats wishful thinking with this company lol

    slip seating sucks :biggrin_25523:
     
  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    This is a problem you see in many "smallish" companies where trucks are the money-making component. They are too small to grasp the overall safety demands and too small to have a sufficient cash flow to keep their equipment up to proper standards. And they are small enough to have not YET had a major traffic incident involving a death that was related to a safety standard not being met.

    Every small company starts in this mode, and every company will have a major event (accident) that either breaks them into bankruptcy or they get a second chance and change how they prioritize their expenses and view the costs involved in keeping equipment up to standards is cheaper in the long run than letting safety issues go unaddressed.
     
  7. Morlen

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    never said my company was small, my DC employs 100+ drivers but the company isnt small. its just the ppl with the "dont cause me problems because i want to retire with all my hair" mindset lol
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    First off, DOT is NOT your friend. The can and will make your life a living hell in the drop of a hat.


    Maintenance is/has always been viewed as a secondary evil in almost any business. Manufacturing ####### about down time because they loose production (or so they think.) Trucking is the same way.

    You can't spend money on it because it's not seen as justifiable (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)

    Lot of people don't realize that if you can schedule your end-of-service-life maintenance around the planned down time, you will have less break-downs that cost you 3-5 times as much money from road side service calls to middle of the night emergency repairs.
     
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  9. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    What you described sounds like a small, inexperienced outfit, but if it's as you say then I'd be running as fast as I could from them because the new CSA system puts you as a driver quickly into the "unemployable" category given a just a few violations driving their ill-kept equipment.
     
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  10. dibstr

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    I do appreciate your wanting to to be certain your equipment is safe and up to standards, but a few comments.

    That's something we cannot determine, but either you do (Play games) or you are lacking on the regs and OOS criteria or you did not provide enough info.


    To be OOS there needs to be three or more adjacent crossmembers broken and there has to be sagging below the lower rail. Leaf springs "are shot" is not an adequate term used to describe an OOS defect, and tire clearance of 1.5 inches is not OOS criteria.



    Here again not enough info to answer your question, but enough to see that you are not correct with your OOS statement. Steer tire minimum tread is 2/32" but not at "some part of the tire". It is 2/32" minimum when measured in any two (2) adjacent major tread grooves. Drive and trailer tires OOS is 1/32" when measured at two (2) adjacent major tread grooves.


    Actually thats exactly what you are doing (Off in thegrey zone). You have confused the FMCSR's and the North American Standard Out-of-Service-Criteria.

    The FMCSR's note what a defect is (A violation to be corrected and possibly a fine) and the NASOOSC puts you or your vehicle OOS.

    Best regards
     
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  11. AM77

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    learning every day :biggrin_25514:
     
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