So how do you plan fuel stops?

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  1. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    In a few months if all goes well I will no longer be a company driver. Until then I have been doing my research and learning all I can. I am curious about fueling. Wondered what some of you do. Do you just fuel where you need it when you need it? Or do you plan your stops ahead? If so do you use some software or web app that plans where you stop and how much you get? Or do you have a place you can get real time fuel prices and plan it out manually? How much fuel do you like to carry? Just enough, or do you have a pair of 150 gallon (or bigger?) tanks you keep filled to the brim? Though maybe that depends on your load weight.

    Are there any details about fueling I may be missing? I know as far as the fuel tax goes it doesn't really matter what state you fuel in since you only pay tax for the miles you drive in each state. So when you fuel do you get it tax free then pay the ifta quarterly or something?

    I will start out leased to a company that handles the ifta for me but it would be nice to know how it's figured so I can make sure I'm not getting screwed paying more than my share, I have heard that can happen.

    BTW if you don't know me you may notice I'm not a longtime driver...but before driving I was self employed for a long time and have learned I do not play well with others. I want my own truck, my own company policies, and to answer to no one but myself. This company bureaucratic BS makes me want to puke.
     
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  3. The Admiral

    The Admiral Heavy Load Member

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    Iwas leased to Admiral Merchants and we had T-check cards that when used at TA or Petro saved us say .20-.40/gal. off pump price. There is a Phone No. at TA central we could call and get fuel pricing at any TA or Petro,worked very well. Only drawback was your log had to match when you bought fuel. Let's just say you earn how to deal with that.
     
  4. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    i fill before i pick up especially meat plants so they cant overload me. My last trip of the week i run the tanks low and fill first trip of next pay period After a lil while you will get a sense of what your mileage is on certain trips and be able to figure where to buy fuel cheapest or just put in a splas of fuel to get you to a cheaper state http://www.truckstopreport.com/ is a good site listing truckstops i also have a pocket truckstop guide lists all the truckstops by route and state
    http://www.truckmiles.com/FuelPrices.asp will give u daily prices by state
     
  5. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I use mapquest, fuel stops are after scales if possible and when I plan to shut down for the day.

    I try to use what truck stops are in route and purchase the least expensive fuel as possible with parking in mind, even if I have to pay for a shower it works out to be frugal on the fuel cost.

    I do not fuel in New Mexico or Arkansas
     
  6. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    I have my own routine. first I have fuel cards, that enable me to pump 1st, then pay after. I will look at my route & then look at the online prices of fuel. en example would be to look at all the flying j's & the Loves truck stops, compare their prices & keep a index card of the state, exits & price per gal at each. when running o.t.r. I do not stop unless I have to. so I will figure, where I will be at a certain point & fuel, shower, eat at one place.

    since I run local the last couple years, it has been quite a while since I fueled when loaded. weather local or not I always try to fuel when empty. less wear on my spread, tires & brakes & fuel to get going again. I know that is always not an option. I always fill up before parking, that way I am always ready. I try to go down to the last 200 miles before fueling. 8- 10 hours is about normal for me. with the fuss & b.s. at some places, I do not want to stop more than needed. also prefer running at night. the convienance of paying at the pump, or just my preference, as far as easy access off interstate e.t.c. outweighs saving 2-3 cents per gallon.

    if I can save 3.00 but have to deal with b.s. rather pay the extra $3.00 & fuel where I like. as you go o.t.r. you will have your favorite, times & places to stop.
     
  7. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    i also try to fuel at least once a week at all the big dealers so i always have shower credits. At least once a week i have to incorperate a fuel stop where they sell def at the pump $2.69 a gal compared to $13.99 for 2.5 gal jug and you have to pour it in yourself
     
  8. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    and welcome to trucking. hope you do well.
     
  9. me only

    me only Medium Load Member

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    when ever i need fuel i stop .no rhyme or reason to my stops .i don't like to be below 1/2 tank no how .
     
  10. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the replies. The company I'm thinking of leasing to loads fuel money on a comdata card and we get discounts when we fuel at t/a and petro. It looks like you just get the feel for it with experience. Once you know your truck and the mileage you can get from it you can plan your own fuel stops checking the stops on your route for cheapest fuel.

    For instance I know pretty much spot on how far my company truck can go with the fuel in the tanks. My company sent me on a trip from Indy to laredo and wanted me to fuel after the first 200 miles then refuel in Hillsboro, tx. Well the first stop wouldn't have been 40 gallons since I was almost full when I started. I checked the miles (thank you gps) and could tell I could make it to hillsboro without having to fill first. It was close though, pumped 180 gal in tx. Nice to have a company truck averaging 7-7.5mpg
     
  11. ironpony

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    I use my carriers fuel price webpage... its updated daily. Any one of the fuel price reporting services can provide you with the same data.

    But that's not all. I paste the data from the states I'm traveling through into a spreadsheet. I subtract the state tax from each stop, sort by location to eliminate out-of-route locations, then sort by price low to high. This only takes a few minutes. Then I know where the lowest base-price fuel is in my route. I always fill my tanks (2 @ 100 gallons) with the cheapest fuel.

    The deal with state sales tax is that with IFTA you only pay what you're going to pay. If you overpay your fuel tax, its refunded; underpay you owe some money. That means that unlike tax on gasoline - all the tax money goes to the government, IFTA fuel tax really doesn't matter when you're looking for the cheapest fuel. Subtract the tax off, and get the best price on the fuel alone.

    Georgia and South Carolina are good examples... frequently you'll see lower pump prices there compared to say Florida or North Carolina. That's because they have a lower tax rate - you put less money into your IFTA account, and pay more for your fuel in GA and SC.
     
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