is fracwater hazmat?

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by nicholas_jordan, Apr 9, 2012.

is eagle ford better than Permian Basin?

Poll closed Jul 3, 2012.
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    weather makes EFS preferrable

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  2. does not mater as one is in the cab often

    20.0%
  3. no - it does not matter

    20.0%
  4. state parks are closer so EFS is better

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  1. cgc4200

    cgc4200 Bobtail Member

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    99/100 spills in the oilfield are cleaned up with a simple vac truck. Emulsion or flow back is nothing more than a mixture of crude oil, produced water and frac gel. Other parts of the country may use recycled water to frac in this area it is fresh water and the produced water is pumped down an SWD. Nothing to get excited about. The process has been going on for years. If it is worrisome to you then probably you should look for work elsewhere. You don't need a resume to get a job driving a truck in the oilfield. You need a work ethic.
     
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  3. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    Well I do not believe I am "yammering", we simply have a difference of opinion. However, I am stating facts also. Fact 1, I am a volunteer fireman and we have standing orders to suit up when responding to frac spills and so does every fire department in our region. Fact 2, by your own admission you make your living in the oil and gas industry so you can hardly be relied upon to give an objective opinion. I would expect you to do what you are doing which is deny science, overlook common sense, and look the other way when it comes to anything negative about the industry. That is a normal psychological response and I can't blame you for that. You are just like everyone else in the oil and gas industry who denies the harm it does to the environment, you like to sleep at night so you kid yourself. But it is what it is and the problem will solve itself as soon as Mother Nature gets fed up with us and wipes us out. But I am glad to hear you made it as long as you did working around that crap and you are still kicking. I hope it continues.
     
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  4. Bikerdave

    Bikerdave Light Load Member

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    And I suppose you have an fire engine with an electric engine? With very high horse mounted on top for you to sit on! Eh Chief!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. TrentonWD

    TrentonWD Bobtail Member

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    I hauled some material in a vac truck that came out of a tank on a flow back job. It cost $70 a barrel to dispose of at a shaker where it was then hauled out of state. Not only is this stuff toxic but Chinese frac sand is known to be radioactive.
     
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  6. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    No but I wish we did. We probably would too if the oil industry did not kill every viable attempt to bring electric motors to market. But know this, I will be the first one in line when we finally develop a really good one. As far as being on a high horse, I proudly admit it. I like always having the moral high ground.
     
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  7. Bikerdave

    Bikerdave Light Load Member

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    Well you can always try methane power. You can fill the tank with each post
     
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  8. ShootThis

    ShootThis Medium Load Member

    To put it simply you will be working in an Oil field or a Gas field.You will always be around something that can be hazardous to your health or explode.Not much else to research.Even if you haul only Frac Water you will be hauling it to a Well with other vehicles that are loaded with hazardous and Flammable liquids and/or materials.
     
  9. nicholas_jordan

    nicholas_jordan Medium Load Member

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    The "internet" is stuffed with that. 30 years ago I got into all kinds of chems from legit work and tolerated it as you say. Now - with aging - I cannot even stand soap with "smell-good" and have to have neutral everywhere. I can tolerate nettle + poison ivy + all manner of natural toxins but cannot stand things like CCA & other widely-used material.

    I read your post in detail and understand it readily, your efforts are centrally constructive and I grasp your point very well. Decades ago that was 110-% for me too, I just cannot do it today.
     
  10. Gorgeous George

    Gorgeous George Light Load Member

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    And your reply more clearly explains your sensitivity to chemicals.

    Lot's of things have changed in 30 years. Hiding the hazards of the chemical hasn't been one of them. If anything, they now go over-board with the PPE.

    For me....Dow Klean was the most toxic chemical we handled.....and Dow did away with it in early 1983. That stuff was the best cleaning agent in the world. Parts, uniforms, shop floors.
     
  11. dunderland

    dunderland Bobtail Member

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    No Frac water is not consider hazmat Select Energy will not make you haul something you cant haul pre endorsement.I worked outta ETX/NLA terminal in Chireno,TX.
     
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