Need advice on buying trucks

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by belanova04, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. belanova04

    belanova04 Bobtail Member

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    Hi, I was given the task of locating for import to a eastern European country a large quantity of trucks that could carry containers. (either new or used)

    I was wondering which company was the best for its buck, ie. what would be the best investment.

    Also wondering if someone could give me some advice on where is the best place to look for them, and what I should expect to pay for 50 or so.

    Thanks!!!
     
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  3. belanova04

    belanova04 Bobtail Member

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    What if we assume I need Mercedes engines (easier parts in Europe), and want small sleepers. They should also be under 5 years old, and I would like to buy a fleet. What model would I look for then, and where might I find it.

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  4. Tip

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    You want to get 50 trucks with Merc engines that also have small sleepers and are less than five years old. They're around, but tough to find in the USA.

    Staying with Cat or Cummins power may or may not be a bad move. It should be easy to find parts and service for Cat and Cummins engines in Western Europe. Eastern Europe? That's a stretch. That's where your problem lies.

    Maybe you should look into Scania or MAN rigs in Western Europe. I don't know which engine a Scania or a MAN comes with, but I assume you can get one (or 50) with a Mercedes Engine.

    Good luck.
     
  5. belanova04

    belanova04 Bobtail Member

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    You were right. I spoke with the frightliner used trucks dep. They have 3 in their system for the entire US.

    Cats engines should work, as they are available in Russia.

    So my question is like this. What are the advantages/disadvantages of buying from selectrucks. And are there any other truck companies that use a engine that is widely used in Europe.

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  6. belanova04

    belanova04 Bobtail Member

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    There are lots of Volvos out here. I was wondering what you guys thought about volvo trucks. How they compared both price wise, and in quality to a frightliner.

    What I should expect to pay for them.

    I was quoted about 40,000 for a 2002-03 Frightliner Columbia mid roof with a cat c-15 engine.
     
  7. Tip

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    I guess I should make one more assumption: You're NOT limited by certain budget constraints. In other words, you're not looking for the cheapest truck you can find. Obviously this is true, or you wouldn't be putting a limit on age. Newer trucks are gonna cost you, as you know. A 2005 Freightliner with 350,000 miles on it will be more expensive than a 2000 Freightliner with the same miles. The only difference is one has depreciated more than the other.

    I've driven Volvo rigs, and they're nice. Some of those were/are offered with the merc engine. However, the earlier Volvo models were plagued with front suspension problems. I believe a bolt having the wrong size was used in the assembly somewhere. Newers Volvos don't have this problem.

    I can't tell you much about Selectrucks. I know it's Freightliner's way of selling Freightliner trucks that trucking company fleets have traded in for newer models under contract. A trucking company will trade in a truck when it gets about 350,000 miles on it, as the rig is still under its 500,000-mile warranty and thus still has some trade value. Lots of those trucks are out there, and the Freightliners are handled through Selectrucks. Some of these, maybe even MOST, are trucks that were only leased by the companies--the companies didn't buy them.
     
  8. prisonerofthehwy

    prisonerofthehwy <strong>Ball and Chains</strong>

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    I personally like a Volvo.
     
  9. torque

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    I know you can get Freightliner Colombias with Mercedes engines,The ones they have where I work have double bunk sleepers and I don't know what the wheelbase is on them.Probably larger than you want to run in Europe but it's a thought.I only drive Internationals so I don't know much about the Freightliners.
     
  10. kd5drx

    kd5drx <strong>Master of Electronic Communications</stron

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    I don't know what your particular requirements are and what kind of drivers you will be putting in these trucks but if you are using European drivers in these trucks you must realize you are going to have to retrain about half of the drivers you put in them. Most European drivers are used to Mercedes and iveco and scania and the likes that have European transmissions in them which are fully synchronized and the American transmissions are not synchronized at all. We had this problem over here in Iraq the European drivers were fine in the European truck but some of the company's bought a bunch of old JB hunt and old Crete trucks and with in a month half of them were down with trans problems because they didn't know how to shift them. Just a thought on your task.
     
  11. Matthews

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    belanova04,

    The guys around here know me for buying CHEAP, CHEAP trucks and running them till the wheel's fall off. AKA:Freightliner Buyer!!

    Freightliner's are CHEAPER trucks that do the JOB just the same as the others.
    Their Parts are cheaper too when it comes to Misc components.

    The reason's O/Os go for the ( select Truck Deals ) are the LOW MONEYS down and the WARRANTY plans, and loan setup of freightliner.
    If you where going to purchase 3 - 5 SELECT TRUCKS im sure the dealer would GLADLY almost give you a 6th one FREE!

    The select truck is a program through Freightliner NOT the dealer. The dealers have the option of adhearing to the SELECT truck program of Freightliner.
    On top of Warranty coverage, new tires, new brakes, new batteries, new this and new that... The Owner Op's also get a start your business program issued in the deal. AKA: DRIVE YOUR BUSINESS, by freightliner.

    I dont really see anything wrong with the ( Driver Your Business ) program at all. I just fall out of that catagory because I've allready been in business. But IF I was a new carrier or going into the Industry blind? I would be calling 2 main businesses.
    #1: OOIDA
    #2: Select Truck

    I though, choose to buy $3,000 - $15,000 dollar trucks and Run them till they PUKE! If I get a good 6 months to a YEAR from a 8K truck? Im in GOOD SHAPE!

    All the best,
    Matt

    HAD to get my 2Cents in! Sorry...
     
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