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The difference is that when I go to a orientation I already know they are going to "jip" me on actual miles, and I agree to it by hiring on. I do not however agree to them giving me the run around on the accessorial pay they say they will pay.​

I have felt the need to make it well known to the last 2 OTR companies I worked for that I will hound them constantly on every penny I am owed if what I am paid is different then what I am owed. I keep detailed records on everything I do on the road from my days as a O/O and believe me, if you don't stay on top of your trip pay it can amount to hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a regional driver, when you are sometimes pulling 20 trailers a week doing multiple stops.​

 

I'd do that, too. Absolutely. But I wouldn't let a little discrepancy every once in a while (say, 15 bucks once every three months or so), even if a company sneaks it in intentionally, cause me to clean 'er out and head home. I've heard of too many guys who will do that, and they end up costing themselves much more than what they were getting jipped. Being unemployed for a few weeks to feed one's pride tends to do that.

Besides, when you're a green driver in your first year, you'll HAVE to accept getting jipped, lest you want to become a job hopper. If you quit your very first company too soon, only the desperate rotten apples will hire you later. God only knows how much quitting your first job in your first few months over something silly will cost you down the road.

It's better to buck up and accept little dings from time to time. If those become the norm, THEN you get out.

 

Mistakes in payroll happen from time to time but what I am talking about is a conscious effort to short the driver. If I bring a payroll issue up with the company and it takes several weeks or months to get paid or they keep stonewalling you, then you are talking incompetence and or a effort to make the issue go away.

It is my experience that if the company knows you are familiar with their game playing and will stand up for yourself, they will make the effort to make sure you are paid correctly.

I can take a new hire from the company I just left (May) and most will not even know when or how much they are to be paid for things such as hourly pay, Layover, Det etc, etc. Pay is not even mentioned in the employee manual except a small reference to scanning and when they need to be turned in to get paid that week.

I have worked for 4 different OTR companies since 1992 KLLM,USX,IDC, and May and all of them played a shell game from time to time when it came time to pay for things other then miles

 

i have asked them about this, and they all say they get paid by Rand McNally miles, thus this is why they pay drivers that way

but we are the ones who have the rubber to the road, and we get paid, post office to post office

one day, i may just drop my load at the post office and demand payment

 

Ain't it funny that the same companies that used to screw their drivers out of miles, are now advertising that they pay practical miles or hub miles as a enticement to work for them, and not the ones who are still behind the curve. Like it was some kind of a bonus, and not what they should of been doing all along, reguardless of what they negotiated with the shipper.

 

what is the difference between the three

rand mcnally/pc miler

hub

practical

 

Hub miles is a term to describe actual miles. What the hub odometer turns (if you have a hub odometer) is what your pay is based on. This is one extreme.

Rand-McNally is the other extreme. This is a scheme many companies (still) use to pay their drivers, believe it or not. Rand McNally pay is based on a calculated deduction of actual miles from A to B, usually around 8%. Somebody realized back in the day that drivers could rip companies that paid hub miles by driving round-about routes. Maybe so. If a driver wanted to get more pay and had an extra half-day to make a delivery, he may take a Salt Lake-to-Cheyenne run via Denver and milk the system.

Practical miles is somewhere in the middle. I BELIEVE this mode is based on zip codes. I could be wrong, but that's what I once heard it is based on. It may be based on Q-comm/satellite figures, which makes more sense because a lot of companies have Q-comm units in their rigs and thus know exactly how far it is from A to B on any run and how many miles one of its trucks drove on that A-to-B run after the fact.

There really should be such a thing as 'Q-comm miles', absolutely, if this 'practical miles' thing isn't based on that already.

Practical miles is the best way, as it pays about what you drive, yet doesn't give a driver an incentive to joyride.
Rand McNally is the worst. Every 10,000 miles you lose about 800 if your company uses Randy. On 100,000 you lose about 8,000, or about three week's worth of running. That's quite a chunk of change to lose, but your loss is your company's gain. This is why so many companies like Randy miles. They can get free labor out of you.

I'd like to see drivers be able to sue companies someday for this Rand McNally baloney. That'd be a class action I myself would jump into. Hey, I keep my old logbooks, as you never know what the future holds. I also have my suit all laundered and pressed in case I get the chance to wear it to civil court tomorrow.

 

I was told by a Charter bus driver that bus companies use Rand-McNally mileage to.

 

so practical is your "mapquest" miles? whether you drive by way of china or you find a shorter route?

that seems to make the most sense

yes, i would even go further to say that there is a 10% difference, and who pays when you have wrong directions, or the shipper/receiver is 20miles away from the address of the home office (which is sometimes where the bill of lading is addressed)

truckers are getting hosed, but dont feel bad, i think its the way we are all being treated (go over your cell phone bill when you get a chance, or your bank interest rates, or..........fill in the blank)

 

I think practical miles also denote the way you are routed also. Such as not going on and of the freeway just because their is a road that runs along it that might be a couple miles shorter.

I remember when I first started driving the routing had the miles on each hwy traveled and they would route you down every back road to save a few miles plus short your miles by paying from zip code to zip code.