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Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by micric, May 6, 2012.

  1. wire

    wire Light Load Member

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    I was already a full permanent resident of Canada before I ever changed jobs so I don't know about the process while still on a work permit. My family were already nominated for PR status before we left the UK by the province of Manitoba.
    I am not sure why you are asking about short haul? If your ultimate goal is to to a job that would never have qualified you to come to Canada in the first place thats kind of playing the system isn't it?
    Loblaws are recruiting turnpike drivers out of Regina, Saskatchewan. Maybe you would prefer that?
     
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  3. pampers

    pampers Bobtail Member

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    Hi Thank you for that I will look them up, what I meant by asking about short haul I meant in the future lets say 5/10yrs down the line I am very happy to be away for 10-12 days now. Who knows what the future will bring I just need to make sure that if I did want to change in the future it would be possible. I am so greatfull of your help and thank you for your time in reading and replying to my emails and you never know we might meet on the road one day. Regards Nigel
     
  4. wire

    wire Light Load Member

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    Oh sure. Glad to be able to help.
    once you have gained PR status you are free to do any kind of job you like.
     
  5. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    That is partly due to deregulation and de-unionization but I think it is in large part due to the general stuipidification of Canadian truck drivers. The poor wages and working conditions in Canadian trucking have made trucking a job of last resort for the desperate and the displaced but also a sheltered workshop for the plain stuipid. The stuipid drivers (of which there are now many) are complacent, acquiescent, uninformed and easily duped by their employers. There is a fine line between employees who are stuipid enough to be compliant and employees who are so bloody stuipid they are a danger to themselves and others. The trucking industry in Canada has definitely crossed the line of stuipidity into the realm of anarchy and chaos.

    That being said, I do not agree with foreign workers being brought into the trucking industry in Canada. There is no "shortage" of truck drivers in Canada. Trucking in Canada has a super-high turnover of employees surpassed only by the fast-food industry. Foreign drivers are being used to suppress wages in trucking in Canada. It's possible that in general the foreign truck drivers may be smarter than the pool of domestic dolts so that may be a good thing but only if the smarter foreign truck drivers fight for better wages and working conditions in Canada.

    The PNP and the TFW program have been thoroughly abused by trucking companies in Canada. In some cases qualified and experienced domestic truck drivers have been forcibly removed by treachery (constructive dismissal, harassment, etc) to be replaced by foreign drivers who can be treated like slaves due to the conditions of their work status. It's a trucking company manager's dream!
     
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  6. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Very well explained Runaway.

    In 2005, there were 610,000 Class 1 drivers from there 20's to 60's that no longer drove in Canada. I pointed that out to Ed Bradley when he lamented that we had a shortage of 52,000 drivers. He asked, "What should we do"? I replied to pay them and maybe some would come back.
     
  7. canada bound manc

    canada bound manc Bobtail Member

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    Hi prairie Boy,i am still living in England at the moment however i am trying to re-locate to Alberta,the fact i am a truck driver with over 20YRS experience is helping me to do that,here about 10years ago we had all the BS ! about shortage of drivers, at the time i was working for an Irish company transporting hanging beef to mainland Europe,along came a massive influx of very cheap eastern European drivers ,within months most of the English drivers and Irish drivers had been sent away for various reasons (all to put a cheaper driver in the seat) at the time and now most (bad) firms find a way of putting a team in a standard truck keeping them away from home for weeks and weeks at less of a cost than a single English driver,the main problem is the standard of the drivers ability,at least the Canadian authorities are ensuring the safety of other road users ,here almost ALL the RTA,S involve eastern European trucks or UK registered trucks with Eastern European drivers !! its ridiculous.
    the main reason for me wanting to re-locate to Alberta is a better standard of life for myself and my family definitely not to deprive any Canadian of a job,i am a regular visitor to Canada to holiday and watch the hockey so after many years of pondering we have decided to try to make the move,as for ENGLAND ," last one leaving ,,turn the lights out "
    I hope this goes some small way to explain the thinking of and the reasoning behind so many foreign (British) drivers looking for work in Canada ,sean :biggrin_25517:
     
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  8. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    There's a reason why carriers have to "import" foreign truck drivers from halfways across the world>take a moment and see if you can guess why. Even WalMart who is one of the mosted hated employers doesn't have to "import" workers from halfways across the world! See where I'm going with this?

    I'll give you a bit longer to see if you can figure out WHY an employer would have to source employees from halfways across the world when Canada already has a high unemployment rate,
     
  9. rzl-dzl

    rzl-dzl Medium Load Member

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    you do realize its the exact reasoning why the foreign (eastern european) drivers went looking for work in uk?

    or messicans in us, etc, etc..

    1-1=0

    in theory im opposed to importing labor to drive down costs, cuz thats what its aboot, its not aboot filling seats, but in practice it doesnt bother me cuz im not interested in working the job youll get when you arrive. Once youre here awhile and can get a better job, good on you cuz the ppl here had the opportunity for that job and didnt go for it

    this industry has too many sitting around waiting/wishing for a real shortage so they can get a raise, thats the wrong tactic, instead make yourself moar valuable, and youll make moar money

    i wish i could make $400/day driving to tejas and back, but i cant, so im doin something else....

    and the $4-500/day jobs cant find enough drivers
     
  10. canada bound manc

    canada bound manc Bobtail Member

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    I can see where your going with that bud,the thing is i aint coming to canada broke, and the idea of moving to canada hasn't just popped into my head the fact that i can get employment as a driver helps, my friends in canada most of which are canadian have let me know in no uncertain terms what is entailed working for candian trucking firms ,so my eyes are wide open and behind my ears is bone dry :biggrin_25519: ,,,, p.s i know could come back here broke :yes2557: lol ,,
     
  11. canada bound manc

    canada bound manc Bobtail Member

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    I understand what you're saying but the difference is eastern european comes to uk for virtually zip,live in a shared house with 10 or 12 others (3 or 4 bedrooms max) send major part of there wages back to poland, slovakia etc thus putting very little into the uk economy also claiming child benefit for their kids in poland etc .. then when they lose their jobs they can claim unemployment benefit ,housing benefit and of course child benefit for 2 YEARS whilst they are back in their country of origin,and here companies get away with paying minimum wage to these guys,which very few experienced uk drivers would dream of working for..
    On the other hand it is costing me & my family somewhere in the region of $5000 canadian for solicitor to ensure all papers are correct, lmo and p r application is correct ,then there is the cost of re-locating, flights, container shipping etc so we estimate at best we are looking at $10,000 canadian minimum !! other than changing my hgv licence over and the cost of my flight only (not the family) and possibly a little re-training we have to pay everything else ourselves,which in my opinion is absolutely correct !! If you want do something in life then get off your #####* and earn the money to be able to do the right things for your family,and again in my opinion leaving england for a fresh start in a country we all love to visit is the right thing to do ! i'll miss the football though :biggrin_25511: and of course the mother in law !!! lol :biggrin_2555:
     
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