Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Ok, explain to me how it ruins your career.
     
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  3. snowwy

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    that's what csa was designed for. for all employers so see what kind of driver you are.

    you rack up points. and your unhirable by ANYBODY. or even better. FIREABLE.

    csa is just another stupid program. used by the gestapo mainly as those are the only people pulling meeeeeeee over.

    now i could see if a driver had bad brakes or something that was a safety factor. but it isn't keeping these hammered up trucks from being on the road.

    but let's be realistic. clearance lights. REALLY. how does one light make a safety factor.

    i've been back on the road for 15 months. i've got a wrap sheet a mile long full of level 3's. and the only thing i've got is one clearance light and one reflective tape. before coming back out, i was absolutely clean.

    not too bad considering i'm outlaw trucker running multiple computers to do my logs. oh wait, that's an idiot statement from all you brainwashed regulation lovers.

    you all really need to move forward in time to the 21st century so you can stop thinking we drive 24 hours a day running multiple books. cuz that's just another arsenine statement in your brainwashed thinking.

    i'm sorry to tell all you idiots. but i'm NOT AN OUTLAW TRUCKER. i run ONE COMPUTER. i drive 11 hours. i work 14 hours. i take my 10 and 34.
    i arrive safely. with my truck in one peace. rightside up driving down the road. not upside down if i'm still alive.

    the only reason we have problems that we have today. is becuase 90 percent of all truckers are rookies with less then 1 year experience. and as long as it stays that way. we will always have problems.
     
  4. TheRoadWarrior

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    I will say one thing more. I dont ever bad mouth or begrudge a person man or woman for wanting to become a truck driver. I dont agree with the way the industry is going and how they have elected to run it. If your becoming a truck driver just till your job in the office comes back then find something else if your doing this to make a living, support your family and you put your heart and soul into .this job then you will earn the respect of others. Remember out here attitude plays a big part in weather you get that ticket or walk with a warning. Have a great and safe 4th. RW
     
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  5. Meltom

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    you're thinking of:

    PSP is a new Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration program mandated by Congress that is designed to assist the motor carrier industry in assessing individual operators' crash and serious safety violation history as a pre-employment condition. The program is voluntary and is not part of
    CSA.Through NIC Technologies, motor carriers may request driver information for the purpose of pre-employment screening. The driver must provide written consent. Individual drivers may request their own driver information record at any time. The information will be retrieved from the Motor Carrier Management Information System (MCMIS). MCMIS electronic profiles contain five years of crash data and three years of inspection data; however, MCMIS does not include conviction data. There is a fee for this service.
    For a carrier to enroll in PSP, visit the enrollment page. For additional questions about PSP, visit the PSP Website's FAQs page or the PSP "Contact Us" page.

    So let's say your company fires you because you got nailed too many times for having lights go out while driving. That would probably make them a pretty terrible company, or they were just looking for an excuse to can you.
     
  6. TheRoadWarrior

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    Seriously what dont u understand about the point system. If u accumulate to many your gone. You will have to wait for them to drop off. In the mean time no company is going to touch u plain and simple. Your next job twill be at Mickey D's. Read the csa rules and you will understand. They need more rules for 4 Wheelers than they do trucks.
     
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  7. Meltom

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    A company doesn't HAVE to fire anyone. So, if you are a good driver, there isn't really a reason to fire you. If your CSA points are unjustified then DataQ challenge them. If you keep getting written up for piddly crap the point value is going to be low and fairly insignificant. If you are popped for the more severe/dangerous violations then you'll probably be let go, but lets face it you probably should be let go. Nobody HAS to fire anyone, if they choose to its probably due to your attitude and not your CSA points.
     
  8. TheRoadWarrior

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    Wrong answer meltom. Psp and csa are different.
     
  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Oh are they? So how does CSA not get you hired?
     
  10. TheRoadWarrior

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    Im not going to get into a pissing match with anyone. You seem to know the law so either your a cop or you work for crash.or Patti. Companies will fire drivers plain and simple for anything. Go to the truck stop and see some of the drivers looking for a ride home thanks to bottom feeder companies that let drivers go for minor crap.
     
  11. Meltom

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    I'm just tired of hearing how CSA got someone fired. It wasn't CSA it was your company based off of your actions. Own them, change them, the whole freakin thing is a game so figure out how to work the rules. CSA also isn't responsible for you not getting hired (and by you clearly I mean someone else), again it's your actions. If you PSP comes across and shows violations for a bunch of little piddly crap nobody should care. If things pop up like seatbelt, driver not wearing corrective lenses, speeding (on the high side not IN's over posted limit) that should be a red flag. This all assumes that these bumbling companies can even comprehend what is on the PSP.

    So if you got CSA points, just own it. Change your behaviors if you need to, or don't. Is it flawed system? In my opinion, yes.

    PS I think eLogs are awesome too.
     
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