Electronic Logs... Good or bad?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Road2dreams, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. Tanker Hauler

    Tanker Hauler Light Load Member

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    If you had read my post, I said that they can get the records for an audit, such as one that might be done after a major infraction, not just a simple roadside inspection, although, I agree, I would never give any information to any DOT officer on the side of the road, but, in a full scale log audit, information like this can be obtained by officials.
     
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  3. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    Anything is obtainable. How ever if done correctly you can be very creative with paper logs and pass any audit thrown at you.

    I work for a company that is routinely audited by both, DOT and his insurance company. I may write up 4 log pages during the course of a day to get to where I need to be before I am satisfied with what I have on 'paper' can be turned in. Confident that they can load the logs into any software reader they want and they will come out clean.

    You ALWAYS work around fuel stops and time stamps on BOL's. Some white out tape, scanner/printer and BOL's can be 'corrected' as well. It would not be very profitable for an O/O if he was 100% legal on his HOS all of the time. You dont drive to the point of exhaustion, but bending the rules will always be part of trucking.
     
  4. Klatu

    Klatu Road Train Member

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    I'm afraid I don't understand. Why do they need your cell phone to check what it was doing? If you have any incident or accident they will check it. You won't need to be notified.
     
  5. rturner63

    rturner63 Bobtail Member

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    what is meant by PITA if they make you leave?
     
  6. YachtMan

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    I like them. Honestly thought I would hate them at first, but after the first week I tossed my paper logs for good. I found that at the end of the week, I had more time to run due to not needing to round my log entries to the next highest or lowest 15 minute interval. I think that first week netted me 2 hours on my 70. I was shocked, to be honest. I'll never voluntarily go back to paper logs, but I like to log legally in the first place. It's always been easier and safer to run legal. Folks who like to fudge their logs and ignore the law absolutely hate elogs, lol.

    Pretty sure I just made a similar post a couple days ago in another elogs thread, lol.
     
  7. YachtMan

    YachtMan Light Load Member

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    PITA = Pain In The #####
     
  8. duckdiver

    duckdiver Road Train Member

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    screw paper, maybe because im lazy lol, i use my 14 everyday anyways
     
  9. TrucKer 999 TriLLion

    TrucKer 999 TriLLion Light Load Member

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    on Elogs i just wish that if u stop 2 take a 1-2 hr nap ur clock would stop to...and u will still have ur remaining drive time...
     
  10. rturner63

    rturner63 Bobtail Member

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    thanks, that's funny, never heard that.
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    If you use a fuel card the times are also on the billing statements . One thing really nailing drivers during audits is the gps data on company cell phones .
    But as I've said before the FMCSA isn't the one to fear . If any of your drivers has a fatal accident the info found by an accident attorney's discovery will make FMCSA auditors look like amateurs . The more violations they find the more they are awarded for willful negligence . Then to top it off they bring all the records to the DOT OIG and demand criminal charges be filed . Falsification of logs is a felony and juries don't like reckless felons .

    http://www.oig.dot.gov/library-item/3208







     
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