Why does everyone seem to hate reefers?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by myminpins, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    We haul mostly reefers and I don't understand why so many people say "stay away from reefers".

    For us, a reefer is great because we can hook up our power to it and run the bunk heater all winter without running the truck so we still get our fuel bonus. That's a HUGE plus for me!!!!! :yes2557:

    Also, the bankground noise of a reefer running makes it easier to sleep (for me). It's like white noise and just disappears after a bit. :biggrin_255:

    We usually park in the middle of the empty lot or nose in so we don't bother others but we love hauling reefers so we can have heat without losing our fuel bonus (about $400 a month and up). :yes2557:
     
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  3. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    1. The noise of a reefer cycling on and off will wake surrounding drivers.
    2. The old ones have terrible exhaust and depending upon where they are vented can gag drivers with their vents open for fresh air.
    3. Reefers primarily go to grocery warehouses where the personnel are infamous for treating drivers poorly and delaying them for long periods of time.
    4. Reefers that break down or run out of fuel are a real hassle to prime, restart, or find a dealer to fix them.
    5. Many loads are so temperature restricted that claims are very common and even whole loads are refused.

    Hope this clears it up for ya.
     
  4. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    Though I think you were asking why people dislike the reefers themselves, in which case the first 2 of the 5 responses are pretty accurate. For myself, I will not sleep next to one, because I try to avoid having the engine of my truck running as much as possible, and that means I often have a window down. And the noise from a reefer can be very irritating if you are not used to it and have to sleep directly next to it.

    As for his answers 3 through 5, those are the main reasons why you would never find a reefer attached to a truck that I am behind the wheel of. Particularly, number 3 applies, since I have very little tolerance for a customer that takes advantage of or tries to abuse me. It takes a lot to get me fired up, but once it happens, I can be a very volatile individual. reefer work and the docks they go to would probably light me off a lot more than is good for sociaty to endure.
     
  5. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Interesting. Well, from about November to May, you wouldn't have your windows down in eastern Canada/USA because it's COLD outside. The reefers we use are definitely loud but I haven't noticed they're particularly terrible exhaust-wise - they're the ones on the nose of the trailer so don't exhaust on the ground but upward.

    We've never had a load refused or any problems there.

    There's only one customer who notoriously makes us wait and, yup, that sucks but most are very quick and efficient. Heck, we took a load of strawberries from PEI to Louisiana and some stops were in a Love's parking lot, others were in church parking lots, etc., and we didn't touch the load - the men/farmers getting them were very helpful, friendly and VERY quick to unload. It was great, actually.

    We've never had one break down but these guys take really good care of their equipment while I know a ton of companies out there do not.

    I guess it's just a personal preference. Like I said, we usually stop at rest areas at night when we can so you're parked end to end so it's not so intrusive to other drivers noise-wise, thank goodness.

    And with it cold 8 months of the year in the northeastern USA/Canada, it's nice to get the heat without any fuel penalty.

    Thanks for the info. :biggrin_25519: Now I know.
     
  6. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    I don't idle in winter anyhow. I have an installed Webasto heating unit in the truck that provides heat in the cab when the engine is off, and provides warm coolant to the engine for starting. They burn a few ounces of fuel per hour when I am running them. If I am home on a weekend, I can set a timer, and they kick in a few hours before I leave, have everything warmed up by the time i walk out to the truck.
     
  7. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Really?!? I've never heard of them. Are they expensive? They sound like the ideal thing to have in cold Canadian winters when it's below -20 and you HAVE to idle your truck unless you can plug it in. With that rig, I assume you NEVER need to idle. That'd be awesome!!!!
     
  8. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    We specced them as part of the new truck purchase, but I spotted ads for them late last year offering them for about 800 cash and carry, or 1100 installed. They work well, but you still have idle time in summer if it gets hot enough. Company made the decision that cutting back on half of the idling was enough of a benefit to make use of them. With a 48" sleeper, I never have mine set above the lowest possible temp setting, so they are a pretty effective little unit. Mine's located in the pax side box, little device about the size of a half gallon of milk.

    http://www.webasto.us/am/en/am_trucks_heaters.html
     
  9. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Nice!! I just found an ad for some heaters but our company was installing what they call Tri Packs, which are about $11,000 each!! Still would pay for themselves in a year or two, though. Wish they'd put them on every truck!!
     
  10. Too-Tall

    Too-Tall Light Load Member

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    last night some guy had a refer from 1960 i swear. the motor noise was behind me so i figued it had to be a refer. typicaly i can sleep fine next to a refer... but a locomotive was quieter than this friggin thing. it was 30 degrees out and this stupid thing was on allll ngiht long non stop:biggrin_25516: its 30 degrees outside and this thing is running non stop. wtf was he hauling dead bodies?!!!???!!
     
  11. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    LOL!! Probably frozen goods. They usually want them at -12 F, which is awfully cold, or he was hauling fresh stuff and they requested the reefer be on continuous rather than auto.
     
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