Landstar / EOBR

The ponly way out of this jam is to just not go to the customer that night because you dont have the hours to drop and find a truckstop. this is total bs but its the only legal way to cover yourself.

 

Exactly. If I know I'll run out of hours before hand I get the times changed so I can stay at a truck stop then pickup the next day.

Or if the customer is 24/7 but has no parking area I'll ask if I can drop my trailer, let them load it, then I'll come back the next day. That's been allowed several times.

Ethan

 

After all these years you should be able to add and subtract to 70 pretty quickly. I don't see the time savings. And how's that bio-metric deal going to work? My twic card has never seen a scanner and I'm in a port every day.

 

The EOBR is not the problem.... Its the 14hr clock.

 

no. its the hos that is the problem when we have natural law- or insurance liabilities

 

If they would remove the 14 that would fix SO many problems. I honestly believe they should remove the 14 and 70 hour rules.



Ethan

 

After 2 years of elogs (as a driver and as a dispatcher) I don't see the the harassment issue. Wheater on elogs or paper logs, if the driver logs correctly as the regs say (log it as you do it) its the same thing. The only difference between the two is that on elogs the company can see your log in real time... instead of waiting for the driver to turn it in with the rest of the paperwork a week later.

 

It takes me less than a minute to close out a days log and do the recap. Really you don't need an abacus or to take off your shoes and count toes for this stuff, think of it as money, everything is broken down into quarters. Of course if you like the ticking timebomb attached to your dash rather than thinking for yourself feel free, but don't force me to use one. EOBRs will be the reason drivers don't even know the #### hos rules. Why need to know them when you have a box that tells you when you can drive and when you can't. I prefer excercising my brain. I also don't like the idea of my trucks location stored in a database somewhere I do not control. FMCSA only requires knowing where I have been, not where I am at any given moment.

Also buying an eobr now and expecting it to be compliant with whatever rules they come up with is risky. I believe I read they want wifi transmission of your log details to be possible while passing weigh stations, which current eobrs don't have.

 

There is a BIG differnece betwen falsifying your log to make it look good versis going over hours and logging it.

 

I'm a math whiz and can figure up hours and percentages in my head faster than most. But I'm not perfect and make mistakes. I understand your skepticism I was there once. Electronically figures all this the instant your mouse drags lines on the log with zero time wasted thinking and no mistakes that have to be corrected. Once you try electronic or software you'll be aggravated with all the time you wasted unnecessarily with paper and be ready to toss paper in a fire. I don't care how long you've been doing paper logs or how quickly you think you deal with them you are way inefficient on paper. A newbie starting out I think should learn on paper so they understand but it's a waste of time for me.