HOS question - "Safe haven" rule?

No! Safe haven is a designated area to park 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 explosives, nothing else applies to that term. You MUST be parked BY the end of your 11/14. Be glad it was your company that warned you and not a cop.

 

Working with-in a 100 mile radius of the drivers home terminal, he/she can work a one 16 hour day a week. But cannot drive over 11 hours.

 

The hours of service rules are there so the companies will not work the drivers to death. Because drivers do not get time and a half protection, the government says they can only work 14 hours without a 10 hour break. People confuse laws with rules. A law requires punishment if you break it. You do not go to jail for working to many hours. You go to jail for causing a wreck when you have violated a rule. The company can get fined for forcing you to violate a rule. HOS rules are for your own protection. They keep wages up. Do not violate them.

 

The term "safe Haven" has NOTHING to do with HOS. A safe haven is an approved place to park and then leave certain placarded vehicles. It has nothing to do with finding a place to park after you are out of legal driving time.

 

Woops. Sorry to repeat that Autocar. Too quick to respond without finishing reading all the posts, but boy am I tired of seeing "safe haven" used the wrong way.

 

tHE REASON FOR NEEDING A "SAFE HAVEN"? I'm assuming explosives or maybe radioactive..in either case there should have been a pre- planned route with regular scheduled stops inplace before you left your pick-up point. as well as scheduled stops for rest or emergencies. RickG is correct....no excuse for a poor route planning job...not judging you just trying to give advice. Learn a lesson from this and move on.

 

I would include in your trip planning where you are going to stop. You know how far you can drive, so go ahead and figure the rest out so there ain't no surprises.

A computer or GPS will tell you where all the motels are at. You were winging it when you left the last populated area and was hoping to find a place and it back fired.

Chock it up as experience. You'll get better at it.

 

So if you drive to a receiver with 4 hours on ur 14 an 2 on ur 11 left to drive and it takes them 5 hours to unload you, then tell you that you have to leave the property. What is a driver suppose to do? I mean the average person would plan 2 hours to get unloaded giving them 2 hours to park for the night. What's the right way to handle a situation like this? I've personally got a 14 hour violation for this and so I just try to plan better but it seems like dispatch always tries to get u to deliver a load where u would run out of hours at the receiver/shipper.

 

That is still a violation. In the above instance I call my companies Saftey Dept amd if all else fails they will have the truck towed.

Generally I try to trip plan where I am arriving at a reciever very early in my 14. Obviously a lot of that depends on the load and the time on it, but the importance of trip planning can not be over emphasized.

 

Actually that happens a lot. You can do only what you can do. Each situation is different. If you can break at the customer go ahead and do it. I've had customers before that want to kick you off the property and after explaining to security you are out of hours, that if you kick me off your property and I have a wreck you will be just as liable... some have made special accommodations and let me stay there. Others don't care. That case you mosey outside the gate if you can. Other times you have to find the nearest parking.

Being on paper logs you pull out the magic pen and make it work. If on elogs you can do nothing but document the reason why. Don't try to hide it. You might get an ear full from safety but they will understand. They rather you get a violation than get caught falsifying. Take note if you have to document moving your 10 starts again after the move. There are no exceptions.