Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Yep that's the reason. I don't drive truck because I'm lazy.

 

I have a better idea, volvo and I can start a new thread where we just talk about our differing opinions on how trucking companies should be run. Paper vs eLog, EOBR vs no EOBR, etc. etc. etc.

 

Sounds good to me since I see darn good results with paper and no EOBRs.

 

of course when fuel goes up, you pay the bill
when tires go up, you pay the bill
when electricity goes up, you pay the bill

but the cost of labor has increased, people need more money to survive, and your cost-savings is to continue paying them by mile and harassing them into submission

why not pay them by the hour, if you are going to use elogs? this way, they can drive as slow as you want, plan a 9hr day instead of being forced to drive 10.5hrs and hope they dont run out of hours? or even better yet, make them salaried (like you) and continue to weed out those who are not complying to your demands

i wish you office people would just realize most guys are just trying to make a living, without having to jump thru hoops to do it

 

I'm fine with that, we'll pay by the hour for the hours that you drive. That should work itself out, if you dilly dally and delivery loads late, then there could be like a fine imposed on the driver (unless it was non preventable) a root cause analysis will have to be done to determine what could have been differently to determine where the fault lies. I'm not opposed to this type of pay structure, it's all going to come out about the same in the wash.

 

Pay running E-logs should include time sitting. See I like money and so If I were a company driver making the little wage they do I would run till my clock was out. Now I am at a rest area but the truck stop is 15 miles down the road with food and showers so If I have to stay at this rest area then I should be paid for my time sitting here. Every available minute on E-logs is money in a drivers pocket. Company drivers make little for the work they put in on a daily basis. Company drivers stopping daily an hour before their clock runs out for time to look for a safe haven since they have to preplan like a doctorate student is losing 7 hours a week. 7*65=455 miles x $0.40=$182 per week the driver is losing out of HIS PAY because he has to run E-logs So does the company in which he drives give him $182 per week that they are costing the driver?

 

We have learned that company's lose nothing by running E-logs and DRIVERS LOSE EVERYTHING. Freedom, money, more stress. Drivers are already taken advantage of out here why do they need something else taking advantage of them. I don't know either. Office guys make the same amount of money whether they make their drivers use E-logs or not but THE COMPANY DOES NOT GIVE THE DRIVERS A PAY RAISE FOR MAKING THEM DEAL WITH THE HEADACHE OF E-LOGS AND LOSS OF WAGES. Needs to be a two way street I would think.

 

There is no reason to stop an hour early, if a driver chooses to do so then they forfeit their earnings. But since you're paid to drive, and from what others have said, pay will only include drive time, and I'll give you on duty time as well, but nothing exceeding 1.5 hours per day of on duty time.

In my fantasy world.

 

This would be alot better than what company drivers get paid now. They would love to get paid for their driving time and 1.5hr of on duty.

 

Okay good don't have to stop an hour early so then when the driver goes over his 11 and continues to drive for say another 30-45 minutes till the first truckstop comes then he wouldn't be punished for going over his 11? Its not a drivers fault that there was some miles between truckstops. Since companys won't put the drivers up in motels the only thing drivers have are the far and between truckstops and running E-logs the can't afford to stop prior to their clock running out. So either company doesn't punish them or company pays them for the 7 hours of pay they miss out on while stopping prior to the clock running out.