Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I know. One of my friends got called by safety and was questioned about all his logs and why he was on what duty status and why when at a customer.

    For example if it takes me two minutes to go from where I'm parked to where I'll get loaded it will put me back in sleeper. It won't show drive or on duty time. Our logs don't log or flag anything under 3 minutes.
     
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  3. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    when people fear the government, you have tyranny
    when the government fears the people, you have liberty

    your choice, Dino
     
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  4. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I fear bears
     
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    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Stay legal...no fears!:biggrin_2559:
     
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  6. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    they keep changing what is and what isnt legal
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I think he means this kind of bear..

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  8. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I do believe Cowpie found a good reason to do away with the Post Office! :)

    A point often missed is that compliance and safety are not the same. Forcing EOBR's down our throats would likely be a boon for compliance, while any safety gain would likely be unquantifiable. Unless you buy the line that those of us on paper are rolling menaces careening from one wreck to another. If you buy that, read my sig line again. There's more of us than you can fathom, and we are better, safer drivers than most of the legal beagles can ever hope to be.

    There's a quote: "Those who would trade liberty for security, shall soon have neither;" which should be taken broadly and pondered deeply. And if you do so, and you treasure liberty; the danger of nanny-state thinking will be clear.
     
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  9. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    So you were questioned, they only know what you tell them or your time stamps. Time Stamps oh by the way only mean that is when the paperwork is prepared. I pick up loads frequently where the time stamps do not match because they are preloaded, or loaded while Im off duty.

    My log book shows me going off duty in Tehachapi @ 15:00 and staying off duty till 1:30 am, The time stamp shows being loaded @ 16:45. Do I go on duty, no, I wasn't even there I picked up my truck @ 5:45 am. And note load and count by shipper, indicating to all that I had nothing to do with the loading process, I also date and time my signatures. I get my Off Duty (nothing in sleeper not required because of continuous off duty status). Is this legal, you bet. Will DOT accept it, yes they do not have a choice. Loads all over america are picked up by drivers when they were not present for loading and come in later to pick up paperwork.

    I do this everyday, show my truck and trailers in the same city as the shipper during the time frame required to cover the time of loading and printing, I have never been questioned, also the reg's state that you can show multiple stops in the same city without jumping back and forth between on duty and driving. after your break you show a 15 min. pretrip, 15 min driving(if you feel the need I dont show this), 15 minutes picking up load.
     
  10. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    I could not agree with you more, I also have 3 million safe miles no accident or incidents, a few tickets for speed, no out of services. I continue to run 125 to 150,000 per year with no problems from the trouble making DOT meanies.
     
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  11. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    But I do not fear COP's.
     
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