Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Yes. But the only time I have to touch paper is IF the unit goes down. I do not touch a log page until that happens. Everything up the point of the system crashing is already available on the main system back at hindquarters. If the box crashes, then I just start a log page and continue on.

I do love your trying to dig all the time. "your precious Elog". Do you really think you are making any headway with snide comments? But I do find it humorous, so thanks for the laugh.

 

Sorry but you have to produce previous days logs to Dot. If youf box goes down then you better stop and hope you have a good memory because you need to start up you book all the way back 10 or zo days. And no not every cruiser can get on the net. But DOT dont like it very much when you cant produce something on the spot.

 

Hello! Is anyone home? I said that the previous days logs are already on the main system at the company. All that has to be done is have them faxed to the LEO on demand. Just like is done if the system is still up and running. As a side, i can have them faxed to me and stick them in the log book at the first stop I can. And I can also copy them myself, direct from Qualcomm's access site right to my laptop or smart phone without even the carrier having to do a single thing. That's right, I have direct access to Qualcomm's site and can right now show everything from the last 6 months right up to the OFF DUTY status I am on now, including geographic coordinates of the location of my truck each and every day for those 6 months up to the time I am typing this. Couldn't be easier. So maybe Barney's budget doesn't allow him to have net access, I do. So, nooooooo, I do not have to "create" previous day's logs.

Oh, ye driver of massive knowledge, I am only required to produce the previous 7 days logs. Not 10-20 days. Read the regs.

Ya know, you really have to do a little research and see how these things work instead of typing away looking like you have a clue. You are really showing your lack of understanding here. You are really straining to find something that you can prove. You remind me of the hamster running on that running wheel in a cage. Just running his little feet off to get nowhere real quick.

 

Everything else was useless but this could be my point for you E-log worshipers. The only ones that are running on a running wheel like a hamster are the guys running e-logs as in order to make good money they have to keep that truck a movin. The absolute only thing an E-log does is control the drivers a little better. Thats it. Nothing more. They don't help safety, nor do they really enforce the HOS regulations. ALL THEY DO IS HELP THE COMPANY'S KEEP THEIR DRIVERS OR SHOULD I SAY HIRED B****** ON A CLOSE LEASH. If grown men and women like to be controlled and watched like a little dog the go ahead and run E-logs but the rest of us shouldn't be forced upon using them since we don't agree to them.

 

Interesting thoughts.

What if the system went down and you found out and were on the way to a truckstop to get them faxed? Not made it yet. and dot does not have fax access?

I understand out the fax to your phone, but would they "accept" it?

If you are in Canada, would you use the fax on the phone at the rates they charge?

Most logs I have seen is 14 days when I am in Canada.

 

This truly is like talking to a native in New Guinea about how an airplane flies. I can get the copies direct to my laptop where they readable by anyone who needs the information, 24/7, 365 days a year. At NO CHARGE. No waiting to go anywhere to do it. If the qualcomm bit the dirt just before being stopped out on the road, a quick logon to the net with my laptop right from the cab, and I have all the information any incompetent regulator could want. I think I mentioned this as but one option of several. Fax is old school and for those that still live in the 90's. And some Barney's do. If they don't want it on my laptop, then we can use it to view the records online at Qualcomm's site. At that point, if they chose to be a moron, nothing will help them including a psychiatrist. And I never said anything was "faxed" to my phone. I said I could download it to my phone or laptop, or I could view it online.

I can't speak for Canadian regulations, but the U.S. the regs are quite clear that I must be able to produce the previous 7 days logs. No more is required. That is because the HOS are based on a 70 hrs in 8 days cycle. The day I am currently on is 1, the previous 7 days, then you have a total of 8. Whatever went on before that is inconsequential.

 

I believe that for Canadian regulations it will produce 14 days worth of logs if you switch the regulation to Canada. I can't confirm this as I've never had a reason to test it. The company I'm with doesn't run Canada so i didn't bother learning it. I have enough useless garbage in my head.

 

I only asked because many drivers do not have instant online available. Some have dumb phones.

My reference is not to the canada rules, but the canada costs for using such services.

I was also asking if you have had to do this and found it accepted by the DOT. Nothing more than making an observation from someone who has no experience with the electronic logs.

 

I've emailed to LEO roadside, and faxed to scale houses, walked drivers through their logs on the phone, spoken with officers about what they are looking at and how to read it. We only had a problem once when PeopleNet had a server crash. The EOBR in the truck was working just fine, but since the officer didn't want to look at it in the truck and looked at the website we were written up for something. I forget what, it was a 1 pointer. We still contested it through DataQ, no idea how that turned out because it really didn't matter to me. Technology is becoming widely available and affordable, the majority of the time there will be some way to get the information to the driver/LEO.

 

Faxing to laptop only works if you have internet. A good portion if america has no signal