Accident Caused by Chicane

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Wooly Rhino, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Not really, but the shoe fits, doesn't it?

    Yep, it was quite difficult to time the incoming call to be so disruptive! It took multiple passes through there to make it happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85V1Xewv20k

    Actually, the original premise was that:

    No, the lane shifts were there to move traffic to the opposite travel lanes.

    Also no. It was plainly a lane shift sign

    Open the eyes, they weren't that quick! Also, when the bridge in question is impassable, I'd risk it and say that is an always active construction zone, workers or no workers!


    A strawman, from start to finish. The driver was going less than the speed limit (supposedly) so what does it matter if it were chicanes (which it wasn't)?




    Sigh! Every aspect of the OP's attempt to shift blame to the construction company has been shown to false. But as I said earlier: Anybody's fault but mine!
     
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  3. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    Then how do you know he was doing 38MPH?
     
  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I don't recall the slower than traffic in the 5 points of the Smith System, when I learned it years ago. I'm with you in that I'd rather be slightly overtaking traffic, moving the 'action' in front of me, rather than behind me.

    So my bad, I thought you were slamming the whole concept. (Which did surprise me, I generally agree with your lines of thinking.) My apologies.
     
  5. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Without going back and wading through the vitriol aimed at one another, I could not locate anything that could have pointed to a load shift. Was the load loaded and secured properly?

    Know the road.....know the load. Sounds like perhaps (PERHAPS) both may have been contributing factors.
     
  6. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Maybe false, maybe not. Not my point. Not sure why we have a legal system. Don't need one so long as you are around to pronounce judgment.

    All the stuff you quoted (don't appreciate you mixing my words in with the OP BTW) would be irrelevant anyway if they didn't have the proper permits in place. In the matter of whether or not the construction company can be held liable, I stand by my statement that you don't know what your talking about.

    I have been to job sites where the construction company was supposed to have obtained permits to close the main street, downtown in a city of 150,000 people. Turns out they never bothered to get the permits but closed the street down anyway.

    As I mentioned above I have seen a drunk driver sue a county for his crash and get money because the county didn't maintain the road properly.

    If I am pulling a 14' wide load and 4 wheeler clips the corner of the load as he is passing me, spins out of control and kills himself, do you really think it matters if I am properly signed and following the speed limit if I have no oversize permit?

    Being the "crusty outlaw 4 million mile trucker" that you are, I know that you know it all, and I know it must pain you to admit you're wrong, but keeping all of this in mind, do you not think it's possible that the construction company can be held liable?

    I am done here.
     
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  7. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    :biggrin_25514::biggrin_25514::biggrin_25514:

    I am not worthy! I am not worthy!

    BTW, i believe we were discussing if they should be liable not if they could be liable. I can fall on a discarded Coke can and there will be a lawyer somewhere to make the case that Coke is responsible, in the lunacy of our current legal system. Vast difference between should and could.
     
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  8. FloTheWaitress

    FloTheWaitress Crusty Go Go

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    Slips into back booth with her cuppa...
     
  9. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    Man, you put up this argument in a few other threads. I even created a thread to address choosing a lane. This has nothing to do with the post at all. You don't like the Smith Systems, fine, but do you really have to do this every time?
     
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  10. Mrh2008

    Mrh2008 Road Train Member

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    Went through one of them there chicanes this morning. No accident for me!
     
  11. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    i probably been thru a lot of them they didn't count though because i didn'y know that is what they were called
    i will be more careful now because they are obviously evil
     
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