Cascadia or t660?

both should b about the same, you would want a rear end ratio of about 3.55 or 3.43. the apu on the freightliner will keep your idle time low, and that would put money in your pocket, if it works. however am not a big fan of super singles. look at some of the new wallmart trucks how they are speced out. you can bet they are up to date on the mpg game. lots of luck

 

Well there's more to it than just fuel economy.

Both trucks are 1/2 million millers but they could be worlds apart in terms of how they were kept.

But I'll assume for the conversation that they are both in comparable condition.

The cabin in the Kenny is a LOT smaller than the one in the Freightshaker, and the Cascadia has an APU.

So the number one question is, Are you going to live in it? Or will you only go out a few nights at a time?

Personally I prefer Cummins, but you didn't mention which Engine. (I'll assume it's an ISX) Which means she'll pull a little better than the Detroit, but fuel millage between the two will depend more on driving style, terrain and traffic than any number I can pull off the top of my head. (ie: a good driver in the thirsty truck will get better mileage than a bonehead in the thrifty unit.)

And the sad thing I've come to realize is,,,THERE'S NO MONEY IN BUYING A TRUCK FOR YOURSELF TO CRUISE AROUND IN.

Better to buy a truck and pay someone else to drive it for you. Then buy another,,, and another,,, and another,,, etc.

 

I'm not sure on the trucks but in my opinion the super single tires are what most call "one and done" tires if one blows you have to stop. With the dual tires if you blow one you can limp the truck to a shop and get it replaced. The price for a super single is scary but then again all tires are pricey.
I have a local company that did the swap to the super singles and are now swapping back to duals because of problem with wheel bearings is what one of the mechanics has told me. The other thing is the dump trailer I hauled for a local construction company has the super singles on it there is a lot of side to side sway. I have a Detroit (12.7 Series 60) in my dump truck and I get better MPGs than most of my buddy's who have newer cats.

 

For me it comes down to a reliability choice and that would be the DD15 over the Cummins. Unfortunately we hear more problems about the T660 than is normal for a Kenworth product. But as infosaur says, it all depends how they have been kept.

 

Ok lets hit the facts here.
1 cascadia has more open area. not more storage space though. the 660 has more usable space even though it has a smaller cab.
2 the cascadia mpg between 6 to 7.5 660 not sure on
3 SS tires one and done and you risk a wheel if you cant stop very quicky(i use to be a tire guy and every SS call we took a wheels and 90 percent of the time had to use the a flatt SS tire does not support the wheel at all.
4 the apu. nice if you want to save alittle cash and have a quiter nite sleep but in all real world it does not save that much. i filled up my truck and ran it at higher than idle 700rpm for 24 hours with full tanks than filled it back up and only use 20.00 in fuel for a full 24 hours. so nice to have if the price is right just to get a quite nights sleep.
5 i drove a cascadia short term and hated how it handled, they have air ride fronts instead of springs and sway alot. i could watch the axle move side to side going down the road. kinda scary in my eye. not sure on the 660


personal even though i hate each truck( i own all big nose classics) i would take the 660 over the cascadia. simple because me and my wife drove a cascadia for 2 months while i was rebuilding most of my truck and there was no storage. we had buy a shower rod and hang it in the bunk because my 5 outfits(jeans and a shirt on 1 hanger) would not fit in the closet. than we had to strap 2 creates to the top bunk while it was up( just ran straps up and over and hook both ends to the creates) to put other items we need. the storage looks big till you open the doors and find its all blowed plastic that cuts like 3 inchs of each side of the cabnet.


best of luck though. whatever you buy just dont get to attached to it at first. try it out if it does not work deal with it pay it off and buy another....


PS putting a driver in instead of you driving. I own truck(s) its not cheaper to let someone else drive not only do you have to cover the cost of the truck, fuel, insurance, plates, repairs. now add a driver and you have their pay, workmens comp possibly (and many people are getting away from 1099's for driver) Social sec, insurance, vaction time, extra cost for them to be on your truck insurance, drug testing, and them costly ######## over stupid #### that 99% of the time is problems they created.

 

I can't say anything about a T660 as I have never driven one , though they sure are nice looking with all the creature comforts and those new Hid lights must be a blessing , maybe not to oncoming vehicles but oh well. That being said I have always been a Paccar guy and never liked Freightshakers but I have been driving a 2013 Cascadia with a DD in it super singles and will say this It pulls OK most places with close to gross and its very roomy inside and was tough to get use to as I was coming from a 379 but it is high and tends to sway easily in the wind a bit , the 379 does not do that too much unless your passed by another truck and will feel his turbulence . Mine does not have air ride front as it was not ordered this way , that is an option someone added to the guy above me's truck . It has 100 gallon tanks for weight savings and aluminum hubs likewise I can get between 6.5 to 7 miles per gallon with truck depending upon where I drive and the load bearing weight . It has an APU that runs on a battery and I have never had it die on me . I also leave it on low and sleep on top of my sleeping bag I don't need any covers it is that warm. Dash layout is OK , but the Jake is a button on the wheel that you can accidently hit and not realize its on because the green light is a bit dim in bright light conditions , But overall when the sun is directly in front of you the visors actually block the sun , unlike the old petes you would get blinded if you did not position the seat high enough , I always run with the seat on the floor , legs are long and need the stretch. But handling wise I find you can go right along but the front tires get chewed a bit because the back tires can handle more speed than a typical dual tire combo . It is true , you blow a tire and your sitting for a change , but running a truck with a dual tire one blown is asking for DOT to come stick it up your rear too . Sadly this is not the old days , now they have that 2010 CSA crap along with other stuff against us ! Wish these regulators would come and live in our shoes for one week to see what we go through ! If only we all would stick together ! We have more power than the entire country , we could write our own ticket to better living , but when you have cuthroats in our own system who allow load boards to hire them for peanuts you not only hurt yourself but others in this industry ! I know this is a different topic but I just needed to blow some steam off . Sorry , have a Merry Christmas. =)

 

I suggest you keep looking for some different choices.

 

I vote peterbilt 389, 500hp pre-egr Detroit 60 series, 18 speed with 2.64 rears.