Level 2 while driving as personal conveyance

not so fast skippy

we are still not clear of how this pans out if the FMCSA book says "off-duty" is indeed off duty.

notice he did not ask for the drivers log book, and i also figured it made no difference if the trailer was loaded or not

was the officer correct in asking for paperwork on the truck? i agree, any vehicle can be asked for paperwork and from what i understand there is no need for probable cause for a CMV. however, how can a driver be forced to come "on duty" if he is "off duty"? does this stop constitute "on duty"? or is it just a traffic stop as if he was driving his personal car at home?

 

Take it up with Scalemaster.

I already know what the book states and what I would do in this case. It is on duty.

 

so, if windsmith was doing a 34, and barney pulled this stunt at the 32nd hr, you are saying windsmith would have just SOL?

is that right, fair, or accurate?

 

That is correct.

But, remember, I was driving long before the 34 came around. At that point, all you have to do is look at the daily hours.

 

so on his 9th hr , he would have to return to the truckstop and sit for 10 more hours

something dont quite sound right about that

 

Should have thought about the risk before taking it.

 

Rules and fairness do not necessarily go hand-in-hand, lest we forget.

Frankly, I thought it was a given that if you're inspected whether you're "off-duty" or not, you would have to go to line 4. Didn't think it was that complicated.

The fairness of it and/or the "legality" of it is a separate issue and debate.

 

doing what is perfectly legal is now a "risk"?

 

What was also legal was the inspection, so it's a draw. The "risk" was putting himself in the position of potentially having to go to line 4 by exposing himself to that very possibility.

So....back to square one.

But I think we also have to consider the odds of this very scenario taking place. Very slim, I would think....so perhaps the risk was worth it? To each his own on that point.