Swift chooses 90 day exp over 7 yrs

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  1. BubbaTrucker

    BubbaTrucker "Iam Hanging in there"

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    lookin up ... the guy only drove jan to march 9th i believe when he rolled that truck when he fell asleep at the wheel. so he only drove a little over 10 weeks and mind you, he got a cdl out of school and a o/o desperate hired him without training.

    this is another thing and i am sure most of the experienced guys on here will agree with me, but this next part of what i am going to say literally keeps me up at night and i am sure they will agree.


    ok here is joe schmo , fresh out of training, has his CDL, it is october, he goes with a trainer for his 42 days, runs south and etc. The trainer gives him a green light. he is off on his own truck and the sun is shinning , the birds are singing and life is just peeches and creme.... THEN IT HAPPENS,
    he is going down the road, it starts to snow, he figures he can keep going he is a trucker now, so he pushes on, the road gets iceier as he goes, he don't relaize it until a mini van carring a family slides in front of him, and before he knows it, the truck is in their back seat. they are all killed and here he sits , 42 days with a trainer, gets his own truck , wants to impress his fam , friends and his company and what did it get him. it got a family to end their lives because he thought he was a super trucker.


    OR, he is driving along, he never sees snow yet, it is now summer, it is 110 degees out and he is cruising through the mountains out of Cheyenne, he is traveling down the mountain and since he don't know any better he goes faster and before he knows it, smoke is coming from the brakes, he applies to stop and can't and BANG he nails a mini van. same situation, lack of experience. he should have knew better and didn't .


    OR, and this one has happened, and the experienced guys WILL agree with me on this one, he wants to impress everyone, he is out of hours and is 2 hours away from his drop off and the dispatcher tells him to keep going, so he does, he drops with no problem and then heads to the nearest place he can find to sleep, its a off exit. He stops for the night. He feels great that he got to them, he is happy, his dispatcher is happy, he calls his wife or g/f and tells her how he went over 2 hours but got the job done and while he is on the phone WHAM !!!!

    a drunk driver slams into his parked truck, the drunk is dead. The cops come, they ask for his logs, and YES, even though he is parked, he still gives it up, ITS THE LAW !!, cop asks him according to his log he should have been 2 hours away, he tries every excuse in the book to explain why he is there but guess what, he has a drunk driver dead under his truck, he went over 2 hours and there is NO excuse for it, next thing he knows is CLICK !! the handcuffs went on him and he is on his way to a great 6X9 room with no view, 3 squares a day, truck career is over and so is his freedom. and YES, for those of you who read this and are not experienced, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL FOR A DRUNK HITTING YOUR TRUCK AND DYING IF YOUR LOGS SHOW YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE THERE. this has happened and its not an over night ordeal, you will get up to and possibly more than 10 years.

    where did that extra 2 hours get that unexperienced driver or that mega trucker who thinks he is GOD and isn't. and YES, there are experienced drivers out there who have done this too and it is not just the UNexperienced doing it.


    maybe you have kids at home, their birthday is coming up, you want to get home... You are at a rest area, it snows and you were smart enough to get off the road. you have a heavy load and you are 10 miles from your drop and 20 from home, you wake up, its cold out, and you done your pre-trip, you get in and start to go, you get about 2 miles down the road, and you hear on your CB radio, HEY DRIVER, DO YOU REALIZE YOUR TANDOMS are locked. UTTTT_OOOOO ..... you pull over and guess what, every tire is flat, you didnt make sure the brakes were broke before you left.. now you have to wait for a wrecker, dispatcher, etc to get over there, change tires and etc and you just may not make it to the birthday for your kids and why .... no winter experience ...
    Bottom line, the fresh out of school drivers, not just kids, adults who are UNexperienced as well, need to have a trainer for the summer and winter experience and it dont happen.

    Alot of the truck accidents you see seriously are from either UNexperienced drivers or the experienced ones who graduated from trucking school and didn't graduate or get a degree in common sense. And the ones fresh out of school learn from the idiots who dont have common sense. There are millions of drivers out there who are experienced, who never ever take any risks, and i am proud to be one of them....
    I didn't have a trainer 11 yrs ago when I got my CDL, I learned from talking with experienced drivers , watching what they do, over hearing what they say at truck stops,...

    i will make this next part quick for this is long already but here is how it went from personal experience.....
    I was fresh out of school thought i knew it all as much as the other guy from class who was hired by a cheap o/o. we were going through cheyenne, it was snowing, we stopped at a truck stop for fuel and food .. eric wanted to keep going but while i was there, i overheard a few experienced drivers say they are parked for the night and arent going anywhere ... i mentioned to eric that we stop for the night, he wanted to keep going .. he went to get his food and a experienced driver overheard me telling eric maybe we should stop ... he explained to me how he drove for years and dont take chances .. what he told me made sense and he made an impact.. eric came back and said he was leaving .. i told him i was staying , .. he called me a wuss and he pulled out, that was the last time i ever seen him alive again .. he wrecked his truck about 2 miles down the road and was killed ...

    point to this story is listen to what some of the experienced drivers say... if you are considering anything that is giving you 2nd thoughts and you hear a experienced driver say he dont take the chance or you think there is a chance on wrecking , pull the truck over and park it .. dispatcher may be pissed but you will live to drive another day or better yet, the fam you may have hit will live longer now that you had common sense to park that truck ...
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    or those of you who mentioned the 2nd job in the earlier posts, i do have to tell you .. i accepted that 2nd job and i am back on the road as of thursday morning... i will be looking for the unexperienced at truck stops and rest areas who ask for advise and tell them some of what i know and experienced ... some may accept advise from experienced .. some may think we are just old guys who dont know better but us old guys as i was called a few days ago are the ones who are still alive and out of jail to try and tell the unexperienced how the road really is ...


    for the sake of other drivers out there and families you have not interupted yet, take some great advise , if you are tired, pull over, if it is snowing, park the truck ... if it is icy out, don't tempt it, if you are on mountains, stay alert and be careful, ... always remember, if you piss off the dispatcher, you are alive to find another job and with big companies out there, there is always a place to go ....


    Bubba Trucker

     
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  3. drivenmecrazy

    drivenmecrazy Light Load Member

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    Well I dont know if anyone alreadys said this but I think Swift is self insured.
     
  4. Norther

    Norther Bobtail Member

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    I am very happy w/ Werner but if you go with them be ready to work. There is no happy hugs on bad days and no hand holding just a lot of work.

    good luck 2 u
     
  5. squirrellsgnwild

    squirrellsgnwild Medium Load Member

    I understand that if your a teacher in a classroom. But a trucker no way! I sure hope the authorities find this out if that guy were to kill me with no experience.:biggrin_25523:
     
  6. DC CAB

    DC CAB Medium Load Member


    Something doesn't click right, man. As referenced below, you were sent home.

    Even the title of that thread states that you were "sent home." Just curious as to which it is.
     
  7. Designors

    Designors Light Load Member

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    There are so many threads for Swift had to pick one .... my experience with a swift driver the other day

    I had stopped in Rothsay, MN for the night .... got dinner in the cafe there .... little ma and pa truck stop .... good food .... had talked to this driver when I was fueling in Mandan, ND .... he happened to stop here also

    While eating he was asking about his log book .... how he can never make it match his fueling time .... come to find out he was logging per the time he was driving on the clock and not adjusting for the time zone .... if he fueled in Central time he logged it as that

    Had to explain the basics of logging to him .... explained that I logged by my mileage NOT by the actual time .... had to go thru it all to him .... really dont think he still understood it

    But it goes to show that they will hire anyone with a heart beat .... this is someone that said they had been driving for 9 months .... but yet still had no clue what he was doing and getting knocked because his logs never matched during that time

    After 9 months you would think that they would sit him down and explain things again .... but as long as they are moving the freight they dont care .... its his ticket at DOT not theirs

    Its just frightening to see what these companies are putting on the roads nowadays
     
  8. PARR3

    PARR3 Bobtail Member

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    Dont worry I was all ways taught to keep my mouth shut and my ears and eyes open.But to ask ? after you see and hear it all . I LEARNED alot from a few truckers when I was 17 and after my father died I hit the road on foot ,brewston mills wa were i started and a week later I was in north platte ne got rides all from trucks and learned alot and that was back in 1988 then after that i jumped on a bus to ca lived there for a coulpe of years.but now I JUST GOT MY CDL AND yes i dont thinnk I know it all and probly wont but i get what your saying bubba.So if a young kid buts in to your conversation its probly me lol have a great xmas and be safe
    rich
     
  9. lzuplift

    lzuplift Bobtail Member

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    nice job bubba trucker,I hope the young drivers out there read your post,only exp.will tell you when to stop or not,cdl's won't do it seeya.
     
  10. soon2betrucking

    soon2betrucking Road Train Member

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    After Speaking to a driver that came to my school 2 weeks ago, he told us that he got hired over 4 guys that had over 60 years driving between the 4 of them, when asked why they were choosing him, a newbie out of school, there answer was short and simple, CHEAPER!, he said the turnover rate in that company, they keep the wheels moving by mostly rookies out of schools, cause they are cheaper to pay as apposed to the Vets out there, i guess that why there accident rate is relitivly high as well..hmm.......
    yup :)
     
  11. kd7ctv

    kd7ctv Light Load Member

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    I guess it all depends on the terminal you do orentation at or how you did with thier drive test. Maybe you didn't do as well as you think you did. I hadn't driven for 4 years and only spent 5 days with a mentor. No big deal as far as I was concerned. Yes there were drivers with less expierence going straight to the road, but heck man I was out for 4 years. its not going to kill me to be with someone to show them I won't be killing anyone with thier truck. I mean if I went back into corrections I would have to go back to the academy again since I have been out of it for a few years. Things change, skills get rusty when not used things like that..
     
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