GCWR and what Im seeing required for hot shot???

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by DJ1Houston, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. DJ1Houston

    DJ1Houston Bobtail Member

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    The sticker on the door says the rear axle GAWR is 9350 + the 800 lb flatbed, I understand the trailer rate but how do I figure the GVW for the truck based on the dual wheel axle? that seems to be what I cant figure out and its probably simple I just havent learned it yet.

    OH I found on the new sticker from the guys who put the bed on that says GVWR is 12,500 so how do I translate that into how your saying calculate towing?

    Am I way below what you guys have since your GVWR is about 6000 higher or am I still stuck on stickers and charts?



    Also where to find lightweight trailers as dibstr pointed out? I havent found 40' under 9k pounds.
     
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  3. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    That rear axle weight is what you can't be heavier than that's load truck and trailer weight most guys with one tons reg the truck for 36,000lbs
    6,000 on your steer
    10,000 on your drive
    20,000 on the trailer if you have 10,k axles

    Not sure what trailers your looking at but 9,000lbs is heavy my pro trak is 7,800 with 12,k axles and it's a 19"x22lb beam
     
  4. MC2Xpress

    MC2Xpress Bobtail Member

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    Bottom line is you add all your axles together to get what you can haul. Like he was saying Steer axle + Drive axle + 2 or 3 trailer axles. There is another Hitch in this (pun intended) your hitch. Some hitches arent rated for the weight we haul hotshotting. Make sure you get a hitch with a substantial rating on it. I think mine (Trailer Saver) is like 30K rating with 5k Tongue weight (weight on the plate) You can also look at your tires ratings. They also have a weight limit. Mine are about 5K per tire (x4 on Dually drive axle) so its not an issue but your lowest rating in any area can be your weakest link.
     
  5. DJ1Houston

    DJ1Houston Bobtail Member

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    OK i get that now with both answer together esp. thanks again ( my truck is 7500f + 9500r + trailer axles - limit of tires and tail springs @ 5500lbs - 800lb bed )


    oh the gooseneck is rated 30k on the bed...

    on trailers Ive looked here in houston at PJ, texas trailer supply, BigTex, texas pride.... 30' seems to be @6-7k pounds and 40' is near 10k like a dual wheel dual 12k axle

    please advice on any brands to look into Ive been going by what I see around here
     
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  6. MC2Xpress

    MC2Xpress Bobtail Member

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    I think Load Trail and PJs seem to be the best quality ive seen.
     
  7. Archangel2003

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    So, the axle rating and the tire rating, if either is less than the other, the lesser amount is what it can carry on that one point?

    6,000 on your steer. --------------------------------------------------Assuming it has the same 5,000 lb tires like on the rear axle but the front axle it self is limited to 3,000 lbs per side?
    10,000 on your drive. ------------------------------------------------Assuming it has single rear tires @ 5,000 lbs each?
    20,000 on the trailer if you have 10,k axles. ------------------Assuming 2 axles with one 5,000 lb rated tire on each end for a total of 4 tires?

    If it were DRW and 12k axles...

    6,000 on your steer. --------------------------------------------------Assuming it has the same 5,000 lb tires as the rear axle and the front is limited to 3,000 lbs per side?
    20,000 on your drive. ------------------------------------------------Assuming it has dual rear tires @ 5,000 lbs each and 10,000 per side?
    24,000 on the trailer if you have 12,k axles. ------------------Assuming 2 axles with two 3,000 lb rated tire on each end for a total of 8 tires?

    Also, I see some goose-neck trailers with air brakes.


    Are those intended for larger trucks (like the F600/F700) with air brakes or would it be a regular one ton having an air compressor on board like the electric braked with a battery on board?


    Like electric (from the truck) over air (on the trailer)?
     
  8. DJ1Houston

    DJ1Houston Bobtail Member

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    DMV actually told me use empty truck weight + empty trailer weight + carry capacity of trailer = X
     
  9. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    Axles are weighed as axles "both sides" at the same time not driver and pass
     
  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Several years ago, a friend was told during the inspection that he was looking at the GVWR of the truck and trailer to see if this had been exceeded. He was just under the limit.
     
  11. crhadley82

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    I run a 2010 Ram 3500 Crew 4x4. The actual rating is 12.200 now bare in mind it also depends on which state and how your gooseneck ball is mounted. If it is frame mounted then you would base off of your axle and tire rating. Even though GVWR shows to be 12.2 i can run up to 18.5K with my frame mounted set up. so with 18.5k and a 20k trailer i can run 38.5k. It is always a good idea to register about 2000lbs heavier as to stay out of trouble
     
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